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Voting closed: April 07, 2013, 10:34:35 am

[Egan_BW]

((I think I just got confused because people keep changing their avatars for some reason, and they don't retroactively update. Sorry, lol.))

He's using a site that gives a different image every time you load the page. they do retroactively update.

[thegamemaster1234]

((I think I just got confused because people keep changing their avatars for some reason, and they don't retroactively update. Sorry, lol.))

He's using a site that gives a different image every time you load the page. they do retroactively update.

Ohhhh, that explains it, thanks. I was getting really confused with that, especially since I often don't bother reading the name if the person has an avatar I recognize (and if not, well, sometimes I still won't, apparently).

[IronyOwl]

((Alright, after trying to learn what I can about this game, here goes... probably not quite a good starting character, could use some tips, maybe some slight modifications before he's put in the game?))

Spoiler: Charsheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Martin Howard
Age: 20-ish
Gender: Male
Appearance: Tall, clean-shaven, professional looking. At least, as professional as one can appear around here without looking suspicious.
Personal information: Beneath his professional looks, he is a total nerd. He can't resist knowledge and knows computer systems well. After a period of boredom and getting involved in a variety of piracy sites, he was caught trying to hack UWM servers and arrested. Knowing full well that life at HMRC would be much more interesting than prison, he decided to be sent here. Where there was a rebellion movement, apparently. Hilarious.
Reason assigned to HMRC OR Reason to join ARM: Hacking.
Stats:
Strength: -1
Dexterity: -1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: 1
Mind: 1
Fate: 0
Intuition: 0

Skills:
Handiwork: 1
Conventional: 0
Unconventional: -1
Exotic: -2
Auxiliary: 1
Medical: -1
Gen. Knowledge: 1

My advice is that you're likely to have trouble being useful with this character. Handiwork tends to be one of those skills that looks awesome but doesn't see much use. Materials and tools that let you make anything better than standard are pretty hard to come by, and even when they're not we've often got more talented crafters on board.

You can do it if you want, but expect to be doing a lot of crude jerry-rigging on missions and being asked how, exactly, you intend to make the laser shoot faster.

Aux suffers from similar issues; there certainly are terminals to hack and vehicles to pilot, but probably not enough to form an entire character concept out of (much to the dismay of many people here). Gen Knowledge, same deal; I imagine it comes up handy at some point, but it's not exactly a bread n butter skill.

All of which boils down to one very simple issue: You don't have a weapon skill. You're ignorant with guns, dangerous with manips and swords, and a walking disaster with alien fuckery; this is going to give you a lot of times on mission where you're standing there realizing that there's nothing that needs to be repaired, glued onto something else, piloted, hacked, or thought about in terms of general knowledge, but arguably could stand to be shot in the face or something.

So personally, I'd suggest you grab a point in a weapon skill: Con, Uncon, or Exo. You don't have to, if you'd rather keep your character flavorful, but you'll probably be doing more missions than normal huddling behind a robotic overlord wishing you were better at combat.


On a more mechanical note, the tradeoff system isn't one-to-one; it scales mercilessly. The first +1 costs a -1 elsewhere; having two +1s costs -3 total, and having 3 +1s costs -6. It'll be pretty expensive to begin with those skills, and you'd need another -1 to have those stats. I'd recommend a +1 something -1 something build, but I tend to like being able to dabble in everything; if you intend to be more focused, you could try dumping a bit more to get what you want.

[fillipk]

((Alright, after trying to learn what I can about this game, here goes... probably not quite a good starting character, could use some tips, maybe some slight modifications before he's put in the game?))

Spoiler: Charsheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Martin Howard
Age: 20-ish
Gender: Male
Appearance: Tall, clean-shaven, professional looking. At least, as professional as one can appear around here without looking suspicious.
Personal information: Beneath his professional looks, he is a total nerd. He can't resist knowledge and knows computer systems well. After a period of boredom and getting involved in a variety of piracy sites, he was caught trying to hack UWM servers and arrested. Knowing full well that life at HMRC would be much more interesting than prison, he decided to be sent here. Where there was a rebellion movement, apparently. Hilarious.
Reason assigned to HMRC OR Reason to join ARM: Hacking.
Stats:
Strength: -1
Dexterity: -1
Endurance: 0
Charisma: 1
Mind: 1
Fate: 0
Intuition: 0

Skills:
Handiwork: 1
Conventional: 0
Unconventional: -1
Exotic: -2
Auxiliary: 1
Medical: -1
Gen. Knowledge: 1

My advice is that you're likely to have trouble being useful with this character. Handiwork tends to be one of those skills that looks awesome but doesn't see much use. Materials and tools that let you make anything better than standard are pretty hard to come by, and even when they're not we've often got more talented crafters on board.

You can do it if you want, but expect to be doing a lot of crude jerry-rigging on missions and being asked how, exactly, you intend to make the laser shoot faster.

Aux suffers from similar issues; there certainly are terminals to hack and vehicles to pilot, but probably not enough to form an entire character concept out of (much to the dismay of many people here). Gen Knowledge, same deal; I imagine it comes up handy at some point, but it's not exactly a bread n butter skill.

All of which boils down to one very simple issue: You don't have a weapon skill. You're ignorant with guns, dangerous with manips and swords, and a walking disaster with alien fuckery; this is going to give you a lot of times on mission where you're standing there realizing that there's nothing that needs to be repaired, glued onto something else, piloted, hacked, or thought about in terms of general knowledge, but arguably could stand to be shot in the face or something.

So personally, I'd suggest you grab a point in a weapon skill: Con, Uncon, or Exo. You don't have to, if you'd rather keep your character flavorful, but you'll probably be doing more missions than normal huddling behind a robotic overlord wishing you were better at combat.


On a more mechanical note, the tradeoff system isn't one-to-one; it scales mercilessly. The first +1 costs a -1 elsewhere; having two +1s costs -3 total, and having 3 +1s costs -6. It'll be pretty expensive to begin with those skills, and you'd need another -1 to have those stats. I'd recommend a +1 something -1 something build, but I tend to like being able to dabble in everything; if you intend to be more focused, you could try dumping a bit more to get what you want.

((Actually his character is good, the first 2 1's each only cost -1))

((But again, this is probably better on the OOC thread.))

[IronyOwl]

Actually his character is good, the first 2 -1's each only cost 1

Where are you getting this from? The Reality Shift thread and Parisbre's thing both state that each additional point costs one higher than the last.

[fillipk]

((The character creator page uses that rule, it was a thing when I created my character, and I think the wiki says so.))

[Caellath]

Watch result of battle between non-MkIII-wearing Steve-controlled Milno vs a synth-flesh bot with +1 in everything, except for Uncon, End and Dex with +2 and basic weaponry. Battlefield is featureless plains, not atmosphere and not deadly towards humans.

[Unholy_Pariah]

((The MMI was that man machine interface brain implant that lets you control tech like the assault suit as if it were a robobody amongst other uses, like letting steve control your body when the shit hits the fan.))

Place nyarstifact tusk carefully into whats his faces empty arm socket or stump, if it doesnt bond to his flesh be upset and remove it.

Ask nurses to test it for medicinal purposes.

[IronyOwl]

((The character creator page uses that rule, it was a thing when I created my character, and I think the wiki says so.))

((Ah, I see it now. That is some terrible formatting.))

[Radio Controlled]

((The character creator page uses that rule, it was a thing when I created my character, and I think the wiki says so.))

((Ah, I see it now. That is some terrible formatting.))

((What, on the wiki? Cause if yes, thank you for volunteering to fix it!))

[IronyOwl]

((The character creator page uses that rule, it was a thing when I created my character, and I think the wiki says so.))

((Ah, I see it now. That is some terrible formatting.))

((What, on the wiki? Cause if yes, thank you for volunteering to fix it!))

((*grumble grumble*

To make sure I'm understanding the system correctly: Each +1 costs one more than the last, but you get a second free +1 for -1 deal which can't be explained as "your first two +1s" because it only applies to individual entries going from 0 to 1, whereas the normal system works identically from 0 to 1 as from 1 to 2?))

[Kriellya]

((*grumble grumble*

To make sure I'm understanding the system correctly: Each +1 costs one more than the last, but you get a second free +1 for -1 deal which can't be explained as "your first two +1s" because it only applies to individual entries going from 0 to 1, whereas the normal system works identically from 0 to 1 as from 1 to 2?))

(( Yes. ))

[hops]

Phoebe mopes and regret being caught. Not that he actually did anything. Duh.

"Hey... Steve whatsyourface. You're a wetwork computer, right? How do you keep your brains preserved?"

[thegamemaster1234]

((Alright, thanks for the help. Being new I didn't really know the consequences of this and the wiki didn't help much either to be honest. I'm going to go back to the drawing board with my character, don't put him in the game.))

[Radio Controlled]

((Alright, thanks for the help. Being new I didn't really know the consequences of this and the wiki didn't help much either to be honest. I'm going to go back to the drawing board with my character, don't put him in the game.))

((Did you read the newbie guide? It clearly states, for example, that having 1 weapon skill you're good with is a good idea.))