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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #315 on: May 02, 2012, 12:28:06 pm »

Dariush:  You correctly pointed out that I missed half your post, so I responded to it.

Looking over D2, nobody else thought he was obvtown. Remember what the minority of one is called?

**checks Toony's flip**

Correct?

I think Darvi knew Toony wasn't a wolf because he didn't share a quicktopic with him.  Are you thinking these questions through?

When have I ever said lynching town is suspicious?  I don't think it is, but some people might, which is why Darvi would want to avoid it.

You're damn right I'm tunneling the obvscum and trying to get him lynched.


Orangebottle:
Toaster has claimed survivor. That's essentially claiming mafia-ally. Goodbye, Toast.

Laaaaaaaaaazy.

Orangebottle:  Why is it unlikely to see a new type of role in a game themed around its unknown scum/third parties?
You have a good point. I guess it isn't all that unlikely, but it's weird that there would be a survivor with a kill instead of just an SK. They're the same thing.
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No.

They're not the same thing.  I don't need you all dead; just one team.  Right now I think the town's doing better because Tiruin is gone and Darvi is obvscum.


Irony/ZU:  I agree that the sooner the both of you stop faffing about and get on with your full claims, the better.


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No, Toaster, I think you're cult. That's why you emphasized lone, to make people think you're an SK.

Why in the world would I want people to think I'm a SK?

Also, how would me drawing attention to my new alignment provide any protection/cover for any theoretical cult buddies?  Your argument is dumb.
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #316 on: May 02, 2012, 12:42:32 pm »

Dariush:  You correctly pointed out that I missed half your post, so I responded to it.
Missed. Half of my WoT. Missed. While responding to the few rows down at the bottom. Yeeeeeeeeeees.
I think Darvi knew Toony wasn't a wolf because he didn't share a quicktopic with him.  Are you thinking these questions through?
Something tells me two town wouldn't share a QT either. Are you thinking your points through?
When have I ever said lynching town is suspicious?
Okay, so you think Darvi is scum solely because he unvoted Toony, who flipped town. Right.
I don't think it is, but some people might, which is why Darvi would want to avoid it.
And who are those 'some people'? And why do you think Darvi shares your outlook about those 'some people' and their opinions?

So, we've got a claimed hypocrite killer desperately trying to look like a vig and some tunnelling unspecified result of a botched resurrection with a horrifically bad attempt at a survivor fakeclaim. Whom to pick, whom to pick. Well, I guess I'll just roll with Toaster to account for the (extremely remote) possibility of IO finishing the discussion of his answer with his scumbuddies coming up with a plausible explanation for his actions (or rather the lack of them).

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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #317 on: May 02, 2012, 03:13:41 pm »

Extend. I'd rather not give my fullclaim without one more exchange from urist, but I'm not going to be around for day end.


Orangebottle:
Toaster has claimed survivor. That's essentially claiming mafia-ally. Goodbye, Toast.
Mafia-ally who's railing on who he claims is obvscum Darvi, has fessed up to being a survivor and is offering us a kill every other night. Who's your second and third picks, other than me and ZU for not fullclaiming?
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #318 on: May 02, 2012, 04:01:36 pm »

Extend.

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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #319 on: May 02, 2012, 06:09:24 pm »

Fuckit. Urist Imiknorris is a survivor type. I didn't want to say earlier since he was up for replacement.

Ok I read your previous quote wrong. I'm basing my claims on past games. I did not rule out the existence of another vig in my earlier post. That being said, I still do not believe there is another vig.
Right. So because werewolves were straight killers in one previous game, they are clearly and obviously killers in this one. Because vampires were a cult in one previous game, they are clearly and obviously a cult in this one. And because you'd consider it "unbalanced," having two vigs is possible but not true.
Why so certain?
This has been the case in past games and I don't think the nature of scum teams have changed since.

This isn't an answer. Why are you witholding your N1 action? Why won't you give us a flavorclaim?
I do not think this is the right time to reveal it. Why are you so insistent on knowing my N1 result? Flavor is that I drink a cup of tea, think about someone really hard, and read patterns in the tea.
Because it could be useful information, both in its own right and in confirming you, and I don't believe you've got a good reason to withhold it. The possibility of catching someone in a fakeclaim, with no explanation whatsoever of when or why this will occur, sounds like a scummy excuse to not risk your neck fakeclaiming or outing a buddy.
Also, what did my tea leaves look like or say?
They formed a picture of two guys fighting, which meant you were a killer. Why are you so concerned over flavor?

If you cared about whether I was a vig or wolf, you'd want to know why I hadn't been killing. You don't, and hence jumped straight to "Has kill, must neutralize," because you're scum who really, really doesn't want me around.
I don't think you're a vig. I think you are a wolf, which is why I'm voting you.
That's my point. You couldn't be assed to do anything to figure that out, which is why I'm thinking you already knew the answer. Only one way you could have known something like that, of course.
I've said earlier, I doubt the existence of two vigs enough to be confident you are part of the scumteam.

See? Perfect example of trying to stymie discussion and brush the matter under the rug.
Just no. I see no reason that there should be more than 1 kill each night. Toaster was the vig, and as I've said earlier, I do not believe there is another vig.
Which still doesn't explain why you're trying to intercept somebody who's trying to figure out whether they think differently. Why do you care if Dariush faffs around asking something with an obvious answer? You haven't cared about him before.
I'm confused by this part? Dariush doesn't look like he thinks the answer is obvious.

Why would there be more than 1 kill?
Because if IO is a killer (or rather since, since I see no way for him not to be one), he hadn't killed anyone for two nights straight.
I think he's a killer on the scumteam.
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #320 on: May 02, 2012, 06:29:57 pm »

Fuckit. Urist Imiknorris is a survivor type.

Truth.
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #321 on: May 02, 2012, 06:51:26 pm »

Toaster:
Yeah, that theory is dumb. I had meant to say survivor and then I went "Oh crap I said SK and I can't edit my post" and I tried to cover it over. I had meant to say survivor though.

Irony Owl:
I think vampires are hostile because traditionally they are and I can't think of a reason why a medievally flavored mafia like this would have pretty boy vampires that just want to get along. Also, yeah, I said vampire buddies. I said the word buddies. Doesn't mean I said he's mafia, cause I didn't. I said that hs teammates brought him back from the dead? Guess what? There could be a cult leader who could bring someone back from the dead.
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #322 on: May 02, 2012, 07:13:48 pm »

Why are more people not extending?


Anyway, I'm not a vig, I'm a PGO; more specifically a werebear. Don't worry though, because I like you all and want to protect you; that said, anyone coming around my place at night is likely to become bear chow. I didn't want to claim immediately because I wanted ZU's reactions without the benefit of that information.


More when I'm certain there's time for more. In the meantime, extend. Toaster is a terrible lynch choice, at least until later on.
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 3 - 2 Replacements needed!
« Reply #323 on: May 02, 2012, 07:22:02 pm »

The Scribe's Tally Sheet
Darvi: Toaster
IronyOwl: NativeForeigner, zombie urist
Toaster: Dariush, Orangebottle, Powder Miner
zombie urist: IronyOwl


  Despite a few calls for a bit more time to consider the heralds decide to call a close of the day's deliberations. Toaster, whatever he is, is destined to die this day. Again.

  The guards hurriedly grab him and start hauling him up to the execution platform. He screams in fury and flings them away as if they were small children. With inhuman speed he bolts from the square, shoving people aside as he tries to get away.

  A quick thinking, and incredibly skilled, guard manages to peg him in the back with a crossbow bolt. The wooden shaft lodges in his heart sending the hapless Lone Vampire skidding onto the stones. The guards drag the now inert body back to the executioner's platform, where it is beheaded.

  Perhaps he will stay dead this time. Perhaps.


  Night has fallen. Send in your Actions to both Jim and I.
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« Reply #324 on: May 04, 2012, 05:23:56 pm »


 Once again you enter the city square to find a throng of onlookers already present. As is, a bit to your surprise, ToonyMan returned from the dead. With all of these resurrections, you can only count your blessings that the Werewolf has not been raised as well!

  The Herald does, however, announce the death of zombie urist. A Fortune Teller who had the misfortune to be the target of our attackers last night.

 It will be interesting to hear what he has to say for himself, considering what happened yesterday.




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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 4 [2 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED]
« Reply #325 on: May 04, 2012, 05:27:42 pm »

Bah.  >:(
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« Reply #326 on: May 04, 2012, 05:33:14 pm »

Now I'm getting nervous about the resurrections. That'd make three priests, unless Darvi's a lying liar who took credit for Shak's rez. What do you think of that, Darvi?


Anyway, because I've already written it, here's the ZU part of the post I tried to get in before the deadline but failed to:


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Most of the remainder is still relevant, so it goes out in the open.



Powder Miner:
Toaster:
Yeah, that theory is dumb. I had meant to say survivor and then I went "Oh crap I said SK and I can't edit my post" and I tried to cover it over. I had meant to say survivor though.
You're concerned enough about your image that you'd lie to us about your theories to avoid looking like you made a mistake?

I think vampires are hostile because traditionally they are and I can't think of a reason why a medievally flavored mafia like this would have pretty boy vampires that just want to get along.
"Hostile" and "pretty boy" are not the only options. Many, many vampires in innumerable sources are neither especially friendly towards humans nor bloodthirsty murdering lunatics. The notion that he's a vampire who just wants to feed on the living, without needing to kill them assuming there's enough to go around, does not seem strange in the slightest to me.

Also, yeah, I said vampire buddies. I said the word buddies. Doesn't mean I said he's mafia, cause I didn't. I said that hs teammates brought him back from the dead? Guess what? There could be a cult leader who could bring someone back from the dead.
So you think there's a cult and a traditional scumteam of killers, or do you not consider a cult to qualify as "mafia?"


You still haven't explained your massive jump from traditionalist ("Vampires are bad") to speculative ("Necrocult did it") viewpoints. I'd very much like an explanation of that.


Also, addendum as of today: Why didn't you vote to extend?
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 4 [2 REPLACEMENTS NEEDED]
« Reply #327 on: May 04, 2012, 05:43:32 pm »

I hate you all for lynching Toaster.

Reading over Day 3 now I'm still saying Powder Miner, Darvi, and IronyOwl need to die, now.

PM was the last vote for the Day 2 and Day 3 lynches, and his reasonings were half-assed and stupid as shit.
ToonyMan: Dariush, Orangebottle, Powder Miner
Toaster: Dariush, Orangebottle, Powder Miner

Look at this crap!

Darvi was lying Day 3 (I see IronyOwl already posted this).
And IronyOwl, since I still think you're connected to Tiruin and you were being completely unhelpful Day 3 (which I've been seeing the entire game actually).
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 4 [1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
« Reply #328 on: May 04, 2012, 05:44:36 pm »

webadict is replacing in for Flandre
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Re: Supernatural 5 - Day 4 [1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED]
« Reply #329 on: May 04, 2012, 05:50:07 pm »

And then Flandre was scum.
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