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[Loud Whispers]

I bet that my first attempt to use the minecarts will, like all of my first-time DF experiences, be an unholy trainwreck. Literally!

Like this thread has become?

Isn't a derail into the discussion about derails a meta mind blow?

[Blizzlord]

I bet that my first attempt to use the minecarts will, like all of my first-time DF experiences, be an unholy trainwreck. Literally!

Like this thread has become?

Isn't a derail into the discussion about derails a meta mind blow?

I don't even know anymore. Should add [NO_SLEEP] to mysel- oh wait...

[Kaos]

I bet that my first attempt to use the minecarts will, like all of my first-time DF experiences, be an unholy trainwreck. Literally!

Like this thread has become?

Isn't a derail into the discussion about derails a meta mind blow?

the thread on minecarts got derailed!! LOL 

[FearfulJesuit]

I predict that it's going to go into feature creep, and the way power and mechanics work is going to be completely revamped. This may mean kissing good-bye to perpetual motion machines...but I doubt it.

[Blizzlord]

I predict that it's going to go into feature creep, and the way power and mechanics work is going to be completely revamped. This may mean kissing good-bye to perpetual motion machines...but I doubt it.

Dwarves will always find a way. NO. MATTER. WHAT.

[Kogut]

I predict that it's going to go into feature creep, and the way power and mechanics work is going to be completely revamped. This may mean kissing good-bye to perpetual motion machines...but I doubt it.

What is wrong with perpetual motion machines? It explains plants happily living underground.

[runlvlzero]

I want my minecarts to be powered by undead unicorns, how do I do this?

[Blizzlord]

I want my minecarts to be powered by undead unicorns, how do I do this?

The same way as with slimes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwXTQHlACE8

[FearfulJesuit]

Problem is- I think- that to get rid of perpetual motion machines, you would have to completely revamp fluid flow.

For example, one way to do it is to assign each unit of water a number indicating how much power it has, equivalent to its potential energy. In this way, for example, the amount of waterwheel power you could create artificially would be less than the energy from the waterwheels needed to power the pumps that bring it up and give it energy in the first place. But keeping track of that would be such an amazingly high load on the CPU that it isn't going to happen.

[sumofallwars]

This is awesome.

I can't wait till summer. what else will he have for us by then?

I will not be broke and toady will be getting a % of a pay check for such awesomeness.

[Rose]

I'd do that too, but I already donated before he announced the minecarts.

[Ubiq]

I'm hoping that minecarts are self-propelled via mechanism or some other means as that way we could run them through magma to destroy items or water to clean them. Well, unless water fills the cart when it goes through, which would be incredibly useful itself. Instead of having a bucket brigade wander around to fill a pond or reservoir, you have a track run out to wherever you want to fill a pond, send a cart through a water way (just build the tracks and flood the area afterwards), and have it carry however much water it can haul right to the site. If it dumps automatically, this would work for magma as well.

Even if we hook up a pump to the tracks and power it that way, it'd still give more options that having a dwarf or animal tow them around.

[Amallar]

As said previously, perpetual generators cannot be removed completely so long as fluid dynamics continue existing. I imagine, though, that a basic power level for flowing fluids could be assigned on at least a 3 tier scale, with 0 being still water and 3 being extremely pressurised/energetic; from that, we can have refinement of the system in terms of at least providing relatively realistic generators.


Honestly, though, I'm hoping we'll be given the opportunity to produce a system that operates off of perpetual motion directly from air pressure (as extended to magma...).

[SRD]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Toady One Minecarts are a new tool in the raws. The minecart behavior is determined by the "TRACK_CART" tool use, so you can add your own carts called whatever made of whatever. I'm sticking with wood and metal minecarts called minecarts. Their state as a tool currently has the wooden minecart creation job in the craftsdwarf shop and all carts in the finished goods piles, but I'll likely diversify the tool raws there as well. If it's not too time-consuming to convert the whole eventual system, I'll give the 34.02-7 saves a default minecart tool as well -- as it stands they wouldn't have them.

I've started up hauling routes and vehicle assignments in order to get a cart on the tracks. That'll extend to beasts of burden traveling trackless routes (this will need hay and feeding stations or something, so the animals can eat while they are at stops). A hauling route is a series of stops with properties -- it doesn't have a notion of the actual path built in. We'll see how it plays out. Although once I've got a cart on a track I'll probably jump over to minecart physics and finish the hauling afterward, since it'll be hard to stay away from track accidents and carts hurtling through the air and stuff.

Powered by animals.. DAMNIT.

[JoshuaFH]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Toady One Minecarts are a new tool in the raws. The minecart behavior is determined by the "TRACK_CART" tool use, so you can add your own carts called whatever made of whatever. I'm sticking with wood and metal minecarts called minecarts. Their state as a tool currently has the wooden minecart creation job in the craftsdwarf shop and all carts in the finished goods piles, but I'll likely diversify the tool raws there as well. If it's not too time-consuming to convert the whole eventual system, I'll give the 34.02-7 saves a default minecart tool as well -- as it stands they wouldn't have them.

I've started up hauling routes and vehicle assignments in order to get a cart on the tracks. That'll extend to beasts of burden traveling trackless routes (this will need hay and feeding stations or something, so the animals can eat while they are at stops). A hauling route is a series of stops with properties -- it doesn't have a notion of the actual path built in. We'll see how it plays out. Although once I've got a cart on a track I'll probably jump over to minecart physics and finish the hauling afterward, since it'll be hard to stay away from track accidents and carts hurtling through the air and stuff.

Powered by animals.. DAMNIT.

SO you aren't happy that you can mod in customized hauling animals with max speed?