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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1290032 times)

Helgoland

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10680 on: July 30, 2015, 12:13:39 pm »

Well, they could still fire him for that. Having a fetish != being unable to be part of normal society: Self-control is a thing.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10681 on: July 30, 2015, 12:20:34 pm »

Psh, Helgo, don't you know that people who have fetishes don't have self control? That's why every last one of those fetishizing bastards is a threat to society!
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10682 on: July 30, 2015, 12:28:00 pm »

I have no self control. The only thing stopping me from being a menace to society is how boring I am in bed.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10683 on: July 30, 2015, 12:29:36 pm »

I didn't say that they don't have self-control, or that they can't just fire them. I said that they probably don't want to deal with him, and the flood of sexual harassment complaints and bad press that just one incident could very well generate.

Besides, if the military knows that the person is an exhibitionist (or a voyeur) at all, the person has likely already proven their lack of self-control.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10684 on: July 30, 2015, 12:30:29 pm »

The only thing stopping me from being a menace to society is how boring I am in bed.
Clearly this means you must leave the bed and go terrorize the rosebushes.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10685 on: July 30, 2015, 12:31:27 pm »

I didn't say that they don't have self-control, or that they can't just fire them. I said that they probably don't want to deal with him, and the flood of sexual harassment complaints and bad press that just one incident could very well generate.


Yeah, as if the army gave a fuck about the epidemic of rape and sexual assault of female soldiers thats already happening.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10686 on: July 30, 2015, 12:36:02 pm »

it didn't give a fuck about the epidemic of rape and sexual assault on female civilians before, i don't know which sick bastard pushed so hard to introduce women into the rapemachine but they need to be smacked
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10687 on: July 30, 2015, 12:56:48 pm »

The only thing stopping me from being a menace to society is how boring I am in bed.
Clearly this means you must leave the bed and go terrorize the rosebushes.
Ow. Why not fornicate in less thorny flora?
Besides, if the military knows that the person is an exhibitionist (or a voyeur) at all, the person has likely already proven their lack of self-control.
Eh, I don't see them not taking petty criminals like thieves and the like, so that really can't be the reason.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10688 on: July 30, 2015, 01:57:33 pm »

it didn't give a fuck about the epidemic of rape and sexual assault on female civilians before, i don't know which sick bastard pushed so hard to introduce women into the rapemachine but they need to be smacked

It's no lie to say that the military is barely restrained. You can discipline all you want, but things always happen.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10689 on: July 30, 2015, 02:32:47 pm »

Wow but there's some talking out of the ass going on here.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10690 on: July 30, 2015, 03:07:38 pm »

Besides, if the military knows that the person is an exhibitionist (or a voyeur) at all, the person has likely already proven their lack of self-control.
Not necessarily, I can't remember exactly who it's for but I know that people wanting to join some parts of the US military have to basically 'fess up to everything they might be embarrassed about being or having done so that they can't be blackmailed.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10691 on: July 30, 2015, 05:59:05 pm »

He might expose himself to the enemy?
As long as he can pilot at the same time it sounds like an advantage to me.

This is pretty obviously stupid though.
I wasn't being serious. This would have probably been a better joke if state secrets or stealth somehow were involved.
I know. The second sentence was more of a response to the conversation source.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10692 on: July 30, 2015, 06:08:51 pm »

Besides, if the military knows that the person is an exhibitionist (or a voyeur) at all, the person has likely already proven their lack of self-control.
Not necessarily, I can't remember exactly who it's for but I know that people wanting to join some parts of the US military have to basically 'fess up to everything they might be embarrassed about being or having done so that they can't be blackmailed.

A very close relative of mine is a civilian, and even though he is not part of the military, requires access to very sensitive sites which may or may not be to do with nuclear materials as part of his rather cool job. He has to issue a full disclosure as part of an interview with the MoD, who then via phone-call also interviewed close relatives as nominated by him. I was one of these. The interview was... odd, and invasive. Basically asking if I knew of things like his sexual preference, any affairs, drug use, childhood incidents of an unsavoury nature children, illegitimate children... basically any dirt on him that would make him a liability from a security or intelligence point of view. A second very close friend who just so happens to be a very high up and seriously security cleared military researcher/contractor (part private firm, part MoD) is basically forbidden form using social media, as things as innocuous as family photos could provide an "in" to manipulating/blackmailing him. In my experience, these things are taken very seriously, with damn good reason.

I have probably said too much. I am gonna go keep any eye out for the black choppers.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10693 on: July 30, 2015, 07:42:20 pm »

Besides, if the military knows that the person is an exhibitionist (or a voyeur) at all, the person has likely already proven their lack of self-control.
Not necessarily, I can't remember exactly who it's for but I know that people wanting to join some parts of the US military have to basically 'fess up to everything they might be embarrassed about being or having done so that they can't be blackmailed.
Not just the military. Pretty much any security clearance. Thankfully, I'm not embarassed by a hell of a lot. The poor PSB investigator though...they really shouldn't use retirees to do so many of the background interviews. >_>
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #10694 on: July 30, 2015, 08:09:15 pm »

I have probably said too much. I am gonna go keep any eye out for the black choppers.


Not just the military. Pretty much any security clearance. Thankfully, I'm not embarassed by a hell of a lot. The poor PSB investigator though...they really shouldn't use retirees to do so many of the background interviews. >_>
I only heard of it because of some d/enizen talking about how they had to sit in a formal interview and spend a decent chunk of it talking about all of the weird porn they frequent. Apparently not sexually deviant to be turned down though. And while I obviously don't know what top secret government procedure is, I'm guessing that this stuff has to be followed up on.
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