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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5880 on: May 17, 2013, 08:09:37 am »

When and how? Also, does this sum up the average feeling toward the economics system in the general public? How much do you think people will tolerate? http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=2589#comic
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5881 on: May 17, 2013, 10:39:46 am »

I don't know about opsec, but LEO stands for Law Enforcement Organization
Huh. I was thinking it stood for Low Earth Orbit.
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« Reply #5882 on: May 18, 2013, 12:01:04 am »

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« Reply #5883 on: May 18, 2013, 06:19:03 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5884 on: May 18, 2013, 11:06:38 am »

All these things.

Annoyingly, neither law enforcement organization or officer is in that list. It took google to figure out that was what was being talked about. Wikipedia hath failed me, once more.
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« Reply #5885 on: May 18, 2013, 02:56:14 pm »

All these things.

Annoyingly, neither law enforcement organization or officer is in that list. It took google to figure out that was what was being talked about. Wikipedia hath failed me, once more.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5886 on: May 18, 2013, 02:57:25 pm »

Spot check failed, apparently. Eh.
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« Reply #5887 on: May 19, 2013, 12:54:20 pm »

Just sighed as this. As far as i can work out, a 18 year old lesbian was dating a 15 year old (at the same school, so a senior and a junior), the parents of the younger girl objected, then the parents of the other girl realized they could get her expelled from highschool and charged under child sex offenses / statutory rape. Now she's having the book thrown at her by the justice system as a pedophile though she hasn't even graduated yet, and the couple are only two grades apart. Total insanity.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5888 on: May 19, 2013, 02:15:03 pm »

Just sighed as this. As far as i can work out, a 18 year old lesbian was dating a 15 year old (at the same school, so a senior and a junior), the parents of the younger girl objected, then the parents of the other girl realized they could get her expelled from highschool and charged under child sex offenses / statutory rape. Now she's having the book thrown at her by the justice system as a pedophile though she hasn't even graduated yet, and the couple are only two grades apart. Total insanity.

Hey, the same thing happens all the time in hetero relationships... vengeful parents overprotecting thier child.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5889 on: May 19, 2013, 03:42:18 pm »

Just sighed as this. As far as i can work out, a 18 year old lesbian was dating a 15 year old (at the same school, so a senior and a junior), the parents of the younger girl objected, then the parents of the other girl realized they could get her expelled from highschool and charged under child sex offenses / statutory rape. Now she's having the book thrown at her by the justice system as a pedophile though she hasn't even graduated yet, and the couple are only two grades apart. Total insanity.

Hey, the same thing happens all the time in hetero relationships... vengeful parents overprotecting thier child.
Yeah... It happens a LOT.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5890 on: May 19, 2013, 05:38:26 pm »

AoC laws are pretty crazy.
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« Reply #5891 on: May 19, 2013, 05:43:50 pm »

This may surprise you, but I'm very strongly for them as a general principle (though perhaps they might need to be fine-tuned a bit).  I realize that not everyone is like me, but I've had some very bad experiences dating across a four-year age gap--and I was fresh out of high school, a fully consenting adult!
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5892 on: May 19, 2013, 06:08:16 pm »

Fine tuned way more than a "bit", really. The laws related to statutory are pretty shitty in a lot of places in the states. Sometimes they work as intended, other times they completely ruin someone's life for no damn good reason. Usually see at least a couple cases a year where you've got what's by all indications a fairly stable and healthy relationship, and one of the participants ends up thrown in jail/on the sex offender's list for the rest of their life because they're a few years off from their partner and someone's parent threw a hissyfit.

And especially in the case of ending up on that list, in the states... stick a goddamn fork in you, you're done, that's it, you're screwed more or less permanently. Consenting, healthy relationship? No one being hurt? Everyone whose actual business it is, content? Doesn't bloody matter. End up on that list and you can kiss job prospects and a social life more or less goodbye. Doesn't matter why. Doesn't matter how long ago it was. Y'just flat buggered. A non-crime that bloody close to completely ruins you. S'damned sick, is what it is :-\

Conceptually, though... still pretty ham handed, really. Romeo and Juliet laws help a little in that regard, but... sometimes not enough. Think th'board's actually prodded this line of discussion a couple times, hrm.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #5894 on: May 19, 2013, 10:15:24 pm »

This may surprise you, but I'm very strongly for them as a general principle (though perhaps they might need to be fine-tuned a bit).  I realize that not everyone is like me, but I've had some very bad experiences dating across a four-year age gap--and I was fresh out of high school, a fully consenting adult!
I feel that there are lots of people under the age limit who have the ability and maturity to give consent, and plenty above the age limit who don't. This sort of thing isn't determined by the amount of revolutions you've had around the sun. I only accept hard age limits because it's impossible to test for this sort of thing, so it's the least impractical and ineffective solution out of a lot of ineffectual solutions.
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