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[Sheb]

When will we have the ruling?

[palsch]

When will we have the ruling?

Most likely June. However, tomorrow is the DOMA arguments and that may shed some more light on how things are going. Although most likely not.

SCOTUSblog's argument recap. Their plain English summary with greatest picture ever. Trust them more than me.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

DOMA is pretty much a done deal. It is a law that is "unequal on its face" and thus by definition violates the Equal Protection Clause.

[Nadaka]

Attorney client privilege under attack:

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-manson-disciple-cant-keep-tapes-lapd-162821672.html

[penguinofhonor]

JUSTICE KAGAN: Well, suppose a State said, Mr. Cooper, suppose a State said that, Because we think that the focus of marriage really should be on procreation, we are not going to give marriage licenses anymore to any couple where both people are over the age of 55. Would that be constitutional?

MR. COOPER: No, Your Honor, it would not be constitutional.

JUSTICE KAGAN: Because that’s the same State interest, I would think, you know. If you are over the age of 55, you don’t help us serve the Government’s interest in regulating procreation through marriage. So why is that different?

MR. COOPER: Your Honor, even with respect to couples over the age of 55, it is very rare that both couples — both parties to the couple are infertile, and the traditional -

(Laughter.)

JUSTICE KAGAN: No, really, because if the couple — I can just assure you, if both the woman and the man are over the age of 55, there are not a lot of children coming out of that marriage

[Sirus]

I like the way that Justice is thinking.

[SalmonGod]

I like the hole that Mr Cooper was digging.  They should have let him finish his sentence and dig it deeper.  The traditional what now?  Only one party to the marriage becomes infertile?  So were you going to say it's traditional for the male to begin cheating with younger women when his spouse is past a certain age?  Is that your sanctity of marriage?  That was really a priceless exchange.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I like the hole that Mr Cooper was digging.  They should have let him finish his sentence and dig it deeper.  The traditional what now?  Only one party to the marriage becomes infertile?  So were you going to say it's traditional for the male to begin cheating with younger women when his spouse is past a certain age?  Is that your sanctity of marriage?  That was really a priceless exchange.

Funnily enough, there is actually theological justification for that very thing. In the Bible, Jacob has sex with his wives' female slaves to increase the odds of children. Margaret Atwood used this as the basis for the titular societal role in The Handmaid's Tale, in which this is done verbatim because a good deal of the Gileadian population has been rendered infertile by radiological contamination and a mutant strain of syphilis.

I recommend that book to all of you, by the way. Definitely one of the better dystopic novels out there.

[SalmonGod]

Oh, I'm aware such stuff is in the bible.  Getting them to actually state something like that directly on a major public platform would just be amazing.

[penguinofhonor]

I've been meaning to read that. I love dystopias and I like Atwood.

[Leafsnail]

If only one person in the marriage has to be able to procreate surely that would make same-sex marriage ok, providing it isn't between two women who are past child-bearing age?

[RedKing]

If only one person in the marriage has to be able to procreate surely that would make same-sex marriage ok, providing it isn't between two women who are past child-bearing age?

Solution: Same-sex marriage is legal if it's a three-way marriage that includes a fertile female. Giggity.

[Nadaka]

http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/03/27/0240241/usps-discriminates-against-atheist-merchandise

The United States Postal Service is discriminating against "atheist packages". Packages marked with "atheist" are 10 times more likely to get lost and when they do arrive, they arrive an average of 3 days later compared to identical packages without markings. This study was accompanied by trial groups in Europe where no such discrepancy was noted.

[10ebbor10]

That's only 1 out of 2 possible conclusions.

The other one is that post arriving on time literally is a miracle.

[Skyrunner]

Interesting...