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[Scelly9]

Ok, in a city near me some people are holding an event to stop sexist language. Its good, but some of their presenters are going to be talking about Rush Limbaugh and as a result they are calling their event "Sluts talk back" Is it just me, or does this seem counter-productive on the issue of sexist language? I mean, I know what their doing with the name, calling attention to Rush's antics, but it seems as if the name may hurt their cause more than help it by making them seem as if they don't care if they are called sluts. Does anyone else see this or am I over-analyzing it?

[Descan]

There is a movement (I suppose that word works) to make the word "Slut" and the acts one could call "slutty" less reviled in society. So maybe there is a link there.

[Scelly9]

But what I don't get is that one of the main things they are speaking out against is Rush's name calling of that woman.

[Sirus]

Ok, in a city near me some people are holding an event to stop sexist language. Its good, but some of their presenters are going to be talking about Rush Limbaugh and as a result they are calling their event "Sluts talk back" Is it just me, or does this seem counter-productive on the issue of sexist language? I mean, I know what their doing with the name, calling attention to Rush's antics, but it seems as if the name may hurt their cause more than help it by making them seem as if they don't care if they are called sluts. Does anyone else see this or am I over-analyzing it?

I heard of a similar event a few years back called the "Slut Walk", to protest sexist language used by someone in authority (a cop, iirc). The idea was to demonstrate that women can and do have sex (and enjoy it!) just like men can, and should be able to do so without negative connotations.
Remember that in a lot of places, men who have lots of sex = studs, manly men, playas; whereas women who have lots of sex = sluts, whores, tramps.

[Descan]

But what I don't get is that one of the main things they are speaking out against is Rush's name calling of that woman.

Rush's name-calling of that women with harmful intent.

That's the point, I think. They want it that calling someone a slut isn't a bad thing. But when people call someone a slut and mean to denigrate them in doing so, that harms that ideal, and that's what they're protesting.

[Sirus]

But what I don't get is that one of the main things they are speaking out against is Rush's name calling of that woman.

Rush's name-calling of that women with harmful intent.

That's the point, I think. They want it that calling someone a slut isn't a bad thing. But when people call someone a slut and mean to denigrate them in doing so, that harms that ideal, and that's what they're protesting.

Once again, someone else explains what I'm trying to say far more concisely

[Scelly9]

But what I don't get is that one of the main things they are speaking out against is Rush's name calling of that woman.

Rush's name-calling of that women with harmful intent.

That's the point, I think. They want it that calling someone a slut isn't a bad thing. But when people call someone a slut and mean to denigrate them in doing so, that harms that ideal, and that's what they're protesting.

Ah, that makes much more sense now. It would be a bit strange of them to do exactly what their protesting against.

[penguinofhonor]

Yeah, it's called reclaiming slurs, and for the life of me I cannot find a good detailed explanation of it. What's been written here is good though.

[Flying Dice]

Basically, removing the harm from a word by adopting it as your own. Though that may not be a very good summary of the idea.

[lorb]

The other Wiki has an article on it that explains it.

[alway]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/12/11668279-new-tennessee-law-aims-to-curb-teaching-gateway-sexual-activity?lite
Another abstinence-only bill in Tennessee.

On Thursday, State Rep. Jon Lundberg told NBC station WCYB-TV that a focus on abstinence is needed because Tennessee has the seventh-highest teen birth rate in the nation and the 11th-highest HIV infection rate in the nation.

I guess they aren't content with 7th and 11th; they want to be number 1! Or, at least, that's what I assume they want, considering study after study shows abstinence only "education" is entirely ineffective, if not counterproductive.

"Hey, you kids who are of the age that rebelling against authority is cool! Don't ever do this thing! It is extremely gratifying in the short term! But don't ever do it!"
I mean seriously, did these people not have to read Tom Sawyer in school or something? Whitewashing this fence is really fun! But you kids can't do it; only us adults!

[kaijyuu]

I've been saying for eons, if we keep trying to hide stuff away, it'll only increase people's curiosity for it. Kids especially.

[alway]

Ugh. On the topic of that military course: There's apparently more of them. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/12/11675222-al-jazeera-second-anti-islam-military-curriculum-surfaces?lite

The slides leave the impression that Hamas extremists have infiltrated the U.S. government, media and education via U.S. Islamic groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Al-Jazeera said.
The documents indicated the two courses were prepared by the consulting firm Strategic Engagement Group, Inc., Al-Jazeera said. The website for Strategic Engagement does include statements similar to those in the materials cited by Al-Jazeera, msnbc.com found.
The firm's website states its president, E.J. Kimball, was formerly a foreign policy counsel to Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., and created the bipartisan Congressional Anti-Terrorism Caucus.
Myrick earlier wrote to Pentagon chief Leon Panetta voicing her concern that "the political nature of these (class) reviews might inadvertently weaken" military training, Al-Jazeera noted.
Stephen Coughlin, VP of strategic communication initiatives, is described as "the leading expert in the United States on Islamic Doctrine" and a U.S. Army Reserve major with military intelligence expertise.

The slides indicate the course was approved by two retired three- star generals and former CIA Director James Woolsey, Al-Jazeera added.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/12/11668279-new-tennessee-law-aims-to-curb-teaching-gateway-sexual-activity?lite
Another abstinence-only bill in Tennessee.

On Thursday, State Rep. Jon Lundberg told NBC station WCYB-TV that a focus on abstinence is needed because Tennessee has the seventh-highest teen birth rate in the nation and the 11th-highest HIV infection rate in the nation.

I guess they aren't content with 7th and 11th; they want to be number 1! Or, at least, that's what I assume they want, considering study after study shows abstinence only "education" is entirely ineffective, if not counterproductive.

"Hey, you kids who are of the age that rebelling against authority is cool! Don't ever do this thing! It is extremely gratifying in the short term! But don't ever do it!"
I mean seriously, did these people not have to read Tom Sawyer in school or something? Whitewashing this fence is really fun! But you kids can't do it; only us adults!

That's not the (most) crazy part. The crazy part is that this extends into teaching teenagers to avoid 'sexual gateway activities".

I'm surprised they don't just try to outlaw premarital sex altogether, at this point.

[Frumple]

Remember, the whole statutory thing, re: couples right on the arbitrary age line. They kinda' have outlawed it in some (otherwise completely harmless) situations.

But yeah, that's pretty damn crazy. I always sorta' wonder who these people actually are, but then I remember I live in a community largely comprised of them and kinda' know exactly who they are, so... bleh.