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Author Topic: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all  (Read 61362 times)

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 10:19:19 am »

Not only porn but computer viruses that give people seizures
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... yeah, first cyber-brain virus will be one that makes the infected disco at inopportune moments. Frankly, that is a world I want to live in.

Anywaaay. We've been in a sci-fi world since around the A-bomb, really, maybe the plane. With the PC and constant miniaturizations involved, that's only been exaggerated then multiplied by the internet ♪
Exactly. We cook food by exciting water molecules with radiation on a daily basis, how is that not high tech?
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 10:25:11 am »

You guys have really low, non-awesome standards.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 10:39:34 am »

No. Standards move with the times. Cars, trains, microwaves, building, computers. All these things were high science fiction at some point. The issue is that our standards have moved, once they become possible and thus mundane we are no longer impressed, even more so if we actually grew up with them. Once we have everyday jetpacks and flying cars we will no longer be impressed with them, they will no longer be science fiction.

And then you will tell us we have low standards for being impressed by them.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 10:43:44 am »

Well of course I'd expect future people to have higher standards than me. That's part of why they're future people.


We can of course go into how we judge things by comparison and not objective standards, and how something amusing today is old tomorrow, and how our endless search for novelty is a giant metaphorical carrot on a stick, but that's depressing. I'd rather make bad jokes about flying cars.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 11:24:41 am »

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 11:38:39 am »

Well, I suppose that this new technology, like flying cars and jet-packs, the technology will exist but will be strictly forbidden by law.

Then in 50 years people will complain that there isn't technological singularity, because that would have been made strictly illegal as well.

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 12:15:40 pm »

Despite the facts I've heard about how relatively harmless crashing a car into a building is for the building; I still think the FAA and other parts of air regulations will be having a hard time trying to keep flying cars a possibility, even with full-blown autopilots being put in play, thanks to the still many upon many people that haven't gotten over 9/11 yet (and the die-hard "never forget" crowds). I think we'll be grounded for another good deal of time car-wise because of that incident, despite the gathered facts stating it wouldn't happen again via flying car.

Considering how many aircraft are flying the skies, however, I think it best anyway that flying cars would be kept to a rather minimum level, since the FAA has enough aircraft to keep track of in the skies anyway. We'd need more air traffic controllers, and maybe even specialized ones; commercial, and small car (flying).

My main worry is that inter-dimensional portals will open up around the globe, and fleshy aliens and organic UFOs will start messing around with us. Somebody, call X-COM!!!

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As a start, maybe we ought to get hover bikes as well. But then Saint's Row might occur alongside.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 12:17:28 pm »

I much prefer the "invaders from Mars" X-COM, Apocalypse wasn't that great.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 01:20:23 pm »

The US and Western Europe are slowly transforming into a standard cyberpunk dystopia. In about 10-15 years, all of us will probably live in a world similar to the world of Deus Ex (unless everyone will be wiped out by nuclear war, of course).
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 01:22:04 pm »

I can't wait till I get glasses like these.  I'm going to need to wait until they are prescription though.   :P
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2012, 01:53:51 pm »

We've having extraordinary stuff for a while now. It's just that we've gotten so used to it that we just shrug about it.

(I gues it's an interesting corollary to Clarke's law: maybe any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, but if present in enough quantities, even the most astonishing and wonderful things will seem mundane.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2012, 02:52:38 pm »

We've having extraordinary stuff for a while now. It's just that we've gotten so used to it that we just shrug about it.

(I gues it's an interesting corollary to Clarke's law: maybe any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, but if present in enough quantities, even the most astonishing and wonderful things will seem mundane.
That reminds me about a Louis C.K. bit about his complaint about other people's complaints regarding modern technology (cell phones, airplanes, etc.).

"Our flight was delayed for, like, an hour."
"You can travel from one end of the country to the other in a few hours; back then it took years, a few of us died, some got born, and we became different people."
"But the in-flight movie was lame."
"Is there nothing amazing about being able to take off and fly really high into the sky while siting down?"
"We had to taxi for awhile."
"You're like a Greek myth right now!!!"
"But our seats couldn't adjust all the way."
"There's no making you happy about what we have right now that was nothing more than a dream a few generations ago."

Here's the original video: http://youtu.be/8r1CZTLk-Gk

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2012, 03:42:54 pm »

Yeah, I gotta say...I'm hitting that age where I'm starting to be completely flummoxed by tech developments, because I remember what "the future" used to look like when I was a kid.

There were effectively no personal computers when I born. The Apple I (which came as a "build-it-yourself" kit) was released in 1976. Now, there is a tiny computer in EVERYTHING. People carry phones with more memory and more powerful CPUs than the Cray-1 supercomputer.

In fifty years, we've dropped the cost of computing power from $1.1 trillion per GFLOP, down to...$1.80.

My PC at home could have (in theory) have run all the programs, control systems and assorted calculations that sent Apollo 11 to the moon and back.

If I had the money, I could have my entire DNA sequence recorded. In another ten to twenty years, we'll probably ALL have our genome sequenced just because it'll be cheap and it'll allow the pharmacist to turn on a machine which custom-builds a drug that works perfectly for you.

I can fire up Google Earth and quickly, seamlessly zoom in to almost any location on Earth with a sufficient resolution to see where a particular tree or car was when the satellite flew over. FOR FREE.

We have videophones. They're called computers with Skype. And they work well enough to talk to someone on the opposite side of the planet with almost no delay. I compare this to a mere 20 years ago, when I called Australia in advance of travelling there, and there was a distinct 5-10 second delay between my speaking and their response.

As somebody else pointed out, we have cyborgs. Thanks to the Iraq and Afghan wars, we have a surprisingly large number of people walking around today with lifelike prosthetics. They're still not at the point of augmenting over normal human capabilities, but they're certainly a hell of a long ways from the old clampers and hooks.

We have robotic death machines that are piloted from hundreds or even thousands of miles away. I think this is one that really crept up on people without us realizing it. Because the initial drones were just for reconnaissance, so it wasn't that big of a shock. We've used balloons and gliders with cameras in the past. But then somebody thought to put missiles and guns on one of these things, and we were so relieved to have a way to fight without any more friendly casualties that it did not occur to us just what we had unleashed. Which means in the next "big war", both sides are likely going to have drones. We may even have fully autonomous drones. If that's not living in science fiction, I don't know what is.

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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2012, 04:32:50 pm »

The problem with current flying cars is that they look kinda silly and that you still have to drive too and from the airport to take off.
In fact, it's both cheaper and easier if you just buy a small plane and a car.
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Re: Oh cool we will live in a science fiction world someday after all
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2012, 05:40:23 pm »


I see your drones.

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And raise you riot police

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I think the reason cyberpunk isn't a very mainstream subgenre is because it makes people too uncomfortable with its accuracy.
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