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[Phlum]

Are you saying pot will improve my credit rating? Tell me more!

You have to buy marijuana with cash, not credit, so if you have issues moderating your spending, pot as a prime form of recreation will help you out there.

this fourm is awsome.

[Kogan Loloklam]

Tree bark or seeds in barrels of alcohol for spice extracts?

You all talk about "vanilla" DF, but the truth is there is currently no vanilla in DF.

[MrWiggles]

Tree bark or seeds in barrels of alcohol for spice extracts?

You all talk about "vanilla" DF, but the truth is there is currently no vanilla in DF.

Theres hasnt been any changes to Beverages, and it seems like ToadyOne and ThreeToe are satisfied with Trees, for now.

[LoSboccacc]

so are we getting climbing invaders?

does this imply a invade AI update? I guess adding them seeking levers to open doors could be fun and not that hard to do (since there are creatures that does this already)

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now green

[MrWiggles]

so are we getting climbing invaders?

I think this is worth Greening, but I highly doubt we're going to get a redux on Sieges for this release.

[DG]

Right now you can climb constructed walls but you can't climb smoothed walls or ice walls.

Please clarify this, Toady. By smooth walls do you only mean natural walls that have been smoothed by an engraver (the impression I'm getting) or also walls constructed of blocks instead of rough stone/logs/bars?

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Hmm, you said jumping might get itself a skill, and that you think we should be able to attempt to climb most things, and also mentioned you were still working on penalties, but here's my question:
How is climbing ability determined? Will there be a skill check, an attribute (agility) check, or both/neither? Will a dwarf child be able to scale a thousand-foot cliff or will it be a perilous climb, rolling ability checks every tick?

-edit
hehe, while I'm at it, a question for extraneous skills, (thinking of morul)
With jumping implemented, especially when factoring in water, will there be a diving skill?

[Keldane]

Tree bark or seeds in barrels of alcohol for spice extracts?

You all talk about "vanilla" DF, but the truth is there is currently no vanilla in DF.

Theres hasnt been any changes to Beverages, and it seems like ToadyOne and ThreeToe are satisfied with Trees, for now.

Quote from: caknuck

    So, with fruit-bearing trees, does this mean that we'll get a slew of new ciders to make?

    And will there be some underground fruit trees? (If so, then put me down for a barrel of stalacterines.)


Indeed, with each new fruit that goes in, dwarves lead richer lives.  We haven't made final decisions about the underground trees.  Perhaps it wouldn't be appropriate to share them when we do.

It seems that there have been some changes to beverages. We don't have all the details, but at least there should be some new alcohols to brew from the fruit that have been added.

[thvaz]

We will have creatures like spiders climbing on the ceilings?

[DG]

We will have creatures like spiders climbing on the ceilings?

We'd need ceilings first.

[Siquo]

That is kind of funny, actually. We have floors, but no ceilings.

[thvaz]

We will have creatures like spiders climbing on the ceilings?

We'd need ceilings first.

You're so funny, I almost fell off my chair.

I'm well into climbing now. A critter can grab hold of various surfaces, including branches above them

Why wouldn't them be able to hold on the "floor" above them? A floor on a level could be as well the ceiling of the level below.

[Aseaheru]

will there be ceilings and animals that hide in them to dropdown on people?

a branch is not a ceiling.

[Jurph]

From the climbing update, it sounds like any creature might be able to climb a wall.  Moats as currently designed would be ineffective if invaders believed that a climbing path could be found, but you could turn the AI against itself.  Envision a steep but rough wall leading up to a single-tile-wide entrance, and a watch tower full of marksdwarves with arrow slits overlooking the wall.  Assuming climbing is slower than walking, this could absolutely decimate the enemy. 

Other implementations of this include moats with a shallow slope on the outer face, but a steep inner face several Z-levels tall.  Inside the ramped outer face, pillboxes!  PEW PEW PEW. 

[Aseaheru]

i meant a creature that LIKES hiding in ceilings to dropdown on people.
nice photo by the way.