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[Dante3214]

The many bugs are an unfortunate but unavoidable byproduct of the games ambitiousness and intricate design.

I believe Toady has the expertise to deal with any problem that comes up, but I'm sure that even some of the simplest seeming bugs can turn into coding nightmares due to the countless ways objects and forces interact with each other. I might even guess that bug-fixing a modern AAA title could be easier.

Opinions, I know. But Toady clearly seems to be doing the best he can as far as the game goes. [/endapologeticfanboyism]

[smirk]

Troll is troll. Don't feed the troll.

Toady, have you plans to merge the Interaction and Reaction systems at some point? They do look like they'd go really well together, and I'm honestly not sure why Interactions were made separate in the first place. Mostly I'm just annoyed that Interactions can't be made to require an item, and Reactions can't induce syndromes without using the old 'boiling stone' trick.

[O11O1]

Troll is troll. Don't feed the troll.

Toady, have you plans to merge the Interaction and Reaction systems at some point? They do look like they'd go really well together, and I'm honestly not sure why Interactions were made separate in the first place. Mostly I'm just annoyed that Interactions can't be made to require an item, and Reactions can't induce syndromes without using the old 'boiling stone' trick.

Oooh, then you could make the hatmakers and lead-forgers all slowly go insane!

[Urist McDepravity]

"Fortress knowledge" is awesome concept. Dwarwen science within dwarwen science.

[tfaal]

Yeah, that's not so much a 'bugfix' as an 'elegant new feature to replace a buggy, dissatisfying one', which I highly approve of. Dwarven Science hasn't seen any implementation in the game yet, and I'm very happy to see it making an entrance.

[thvaz]

Goodbye, Dungeon Master. I won't miss you.

[Quatch]

Just be glad they don't have to invent medicine in the same way

Edit: I will miss the DM. Not as much as the philosopher, but the DM was always a helping hand with metalwork.

[Footkerchief]

Yeah, that's not so much a 'bugfix' as an 'elegant new feature to replace a buggy, dissatisfying one', which I highly approve of. Dwarven Science hasn't seen any implementation in the game yet, and I'm very happy to see it making an entrance.

Yup, that's the kind of thing that might get me playing Fortress Mode again.

Yes, but obviously almost all important parts of DF is somehow broken (clothing - 2481 and 3942, nobles - 3453, military - 535, healthcare - 1582, weapons - 2712 and 2327, cleaning - 425, ghosts - 3708, stacks - 3898, dodging - 4550, sieges - 4552 etc)  - and it is not a "mild and funny bug" but a "serious, irritating" - in result game for me is not playable.

Spoiler: buglist (click to show/hide)

bug #2481 - Dwarves will claim new clothes when theirs is worn (xClothesx) but not wear it
bug #3942 - Dwarves owning broken clothing. Clothes don't rot, ANNIHILATES FPS.
bug #3453 - Baron/etc. cannot appoint baron-appointed nobles, such as the Dungeon Master
bug #535 - Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic
bug #1582 - Injured dwarf in bed in stocked hospital ignored by idle doctors
bug #2712 - weapons, especially whips, cut through steel armor like butter
bug #3708 - Ghost names that can't be engraved on a slab and nameless slab engravings
bug #425 - Dwarves Not Cleaning Blood
bug #3898 - Entire Bone Statcks are used in Reactions instead of a single Bone
bug #2327 - Blunt weapons extremely ineffective, extended single combat with groundhog
bug #4550 - Dodging into river/lava/from cliff etc
bug #- Siegers waiting by bodies of dead leaders
bug #4856: Immortal Dwarf (... Yet unconcious) [or any other creature]

It helps to link to bugs when you're trying to draw attention to them, especially since many of these reports would benefit from 0.34.02+ saves.

[monk12]

Yeah, that's not so much a 'bugfix' as an 'elegant new feature to replace a buggy, dissatisfying one', which I highly approve of. Dwarven Science hasn't seen any implementation in the game yet, and I'm very happy to see it making an entrance.

Hear hear! Finally, a reason to have skilled animal trainers kicking around. Exciting times.

[Rose]

Man, the idea of civ-wide skills is an intriguing one. I wonder what else can work with something like this...

[Kogut]

Spoiler: buglist (click to show/hide)

bug #2481 - Dwarves will claim new clothes when theirs is worn (xClothesx) but not wear it
bug #3942 - Dwarves owning broken clothing. Clothes don't rot, ANNIHILATES FPS.
bug #3453 - Baron/etc. cannot appoint baron-appointed nobles, such as the Dungeon Master
bug #535 - Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic
bug #1582 - Injured dwarf in bed in stocked hospital ignored by idle doctors
bug #2712 - weapons, especially whips, cut through steel armor like butter
bug #3708 - Ghost names that can't be engraved on a slab and nameless slab engravings
bug #425 - Dwarves Not Cleaning Blood
bug #3898 - Entire Bone Statcks are used in Reactions instead of a single Bone
bug #2327 - Blunt weapons extremely ineffective, extended single combat with groundhog
bug #4550 - Dodging into river/lava/from cliff etc
bug #- Siegers waiting by bodies of dead leaders
bug #4856: Immortal Dwarf (... Yet unconcious) [or any other creature]

It helps to link to bugs when you're trying to draw attention to them, especially since many of these reports would benefit from 0.34.02+ saves.

I hope that linking to bugtracker is enough - http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/my_view_page.php (there is jump to isssue # on top right).

@providing saves - I prefer to way a bit (there are still new bugs, bugs with new saves and bugs where save is not needed), as it is possible that it will be necessary to again provide saves after breaking savegame compatibility (like in http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4552 ).

@devlog - I really like that taming by spores is gone.

[thvaz]

Spoiler: buglist (click to show/hide)

bug #2481 - Dwarves will claim new clothes when theirs is worn (xClothesx) but not wear it
bug #3942 - Dwarves owning broken clothing. Clothes don't rot, ANNIHILATES FPS.
bug #3453 - Baron/etc. cannot appoint baron-appointed nobles, such as the Dungeon Master
bug #535 - Equipping weapons/armor on military is erratic
bug #1582 - Injured dwarf in bed in stocked hospital ignored by idle doctors
bug #2712 - weapons, especially whips, cut through steel armor like butter
bug #3708 - Ghost names that can't be engraved on a slab and nameless slab engravings
bug #425 - Dwarves Not Cleaning Blood
bug #3898 - Entire Bone Statcks are used in Reactions instead of a single Bone
bug #2327 - Blunt weapons extremely ineffective, extended single combat with groundhog
bug #4550 - Dodging into river/lava/from cliff etc
bug #- Siegers waiting by bodies of dead leaders
bug #4856: Immortal Dwarf (... Yet unconcious) [or any other creature]

It helps to link to bugs when you're trying to draw attention to them, especially since many of these reports would benefit from 0.34.02+ saves.

I hope that linking to bugtracker is enough - http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/my_view_page.php (there is jump to isssue # on top right).

@providing saves - I prefer to way a bit (there are still new bugs, bugs with new saves and bugs where save is not needed), as it is possible that it will be necessary to again provide saves after breaking savegame compatibility (like in http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4552 ).

@devlog - I really like that taming by spores is gone.

I like this list of bugs. If they are fixed, the game would be incredibly improved. However, we don't know what it would take to fix them. We can hope, at least.

[O11O1]

Is it intended for coins to not show up on the trade menus?

It seems like a useful side effect of coins would be that you could use those for automated trading, so that you want something, you give them coins, then you sell stuff to get the coins back.

Of course, this would cause traders to bring in foreign currency and such, but that's almost a bonus.

[JasonMel]

Attempts to tame/train creatures will add to your site's training knowledge of that creature, which augments future training of all creatures of that type.

Does this mean things like wardogs will actually deal more damage and/or take more damage as the site's training knowledge increases?

[Footkerchief]

Does this mean things like wardogs will actually deal more damage and/or take more damage as the site's training knowledge increases?

This is not an attempt to answer the question, but I'd guess that animal training could involve raising the animals' Fighter/Biter/Wrestling/etc. skills.  CAN_LEARN would have to change or be loosened though -- I don't think any basic animals have it right now.