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[JinF]

So... I've been trying to go to war with the elves for a good.. oh... 10 years or so. For the first 8 or so years I would offer them a single log of wood for all their wares, then seize all their stuff, then once the goods were hauled away I would cleanse the trade depot with magma, killing the elves. Since this was getting me nowhere, I finally updated my dfhack and modded diplomats back in. Now I got the elf treecutter limiter pansy. After he told me "Let this be a warning to you bla bla bla I wear women's underwear" I proceeded to murder him in the middle of my dining hall, butchered him, cooked him into a lavish meal (modded dwarves to consume sapients) and made his bones into bolts. Then, when the caravan came, I turned them into pincushions with the bones of their friend, took all their stuff and made more "Elf Meat Roasts". However... I am STILL getting caravans! I can't seem to get these treehuggers to attack me...

Any suggestions?

[Andal]

Perhaps leave an elf alive to report your transgressions back to the elf civ?

[WolfeyS]

Wound them all and send them home limping, with fewer organs!  Also cut down every tree you can see.

[OcelotTango]

Sometimes you just have to give them what they really want, a slow and painful death.

[JinF]

Perhaps leave an elf alive to report your transgressions back to the elf civ?

Hmm, I thought that lost caravans are registered regardless if anyone makes it off the map.

Wound them all and send them home limping, with fewer organs!  Also cut down every tree you can see.

Deforested the map, that's why the elf diplomat was annoyed.

[Andal]

Perhaps leave an elf alive to report your transgressions back to the elf civ?

Hmm, I thought that lost caravans are registered regardless if anyone makes it off the map.

That may be correct but lost caravans may not be enough. Perhaps they have to actually make it off the map to tell about your wood offering and diplomat ignoring ways to make them angry enough to send out the giant panda riders.

[ThatAussieGuy]

Try simply siezing their goods and letting them go.  That should piss off the treehuggers

[JinF]

Guess I'll just be taking all their stuff for a few years then. Lets see if that pisses them off enough. Incidentally, I remember nations that declare war on you were trap immune to traps that their diplomat saw. Anyone know if he has to make it off the map to actually report those or no?

I wanna capture the Elf leaders in cage traps for dwarven !!SCIENCE!! but am not sure if I need to build more of em since the diplomat walked over them before being butchered.

[Tiruin]

Here's a tip.

You cannot go to war with the Elves unless you anger their diplomat.

If you're playing the vanilla version of DF (no mods), you either have to edit the code in, or regenerate the world until you have a pre-existing war with them.

Killing their caravans and angering their traders just won't do currently. They'll just take it as a loss in profit and send you cheap goods next year, just wasting time and effort (where you could be trading with them).

[TealNinja]

Killing their caravans and angering their traders just won't do currently. They'll just take it as a loss in profit and send you cheap goods next year, just wasting time and effort (where you could be trading with them).

I read that as "just wasting time and effort (where you could be wasting time and effort)."

[Tiruin]

Killing their caravans and angering their traders just won't do currently. They'll just take it as a loss in profit and send you cheap goods next year, just wasting time and effort (where you could be trading with them).

I read that as "just wasting time and effort (where you could be wasting time and effort)."

Welcome to the forums 
. . .

I just noticed, I bet you shifted your ethics to allow butchering of sentients?

I turned them into pincushions with the bones of their friend, took all their stuff and made more "Elf Meat Roasts"

Edit: Know that in DF, Elves eat the corpses of those they kill in battle and only that. No desecration of other bodies in anyway or form. (Which would be truly rare, given the fact that most wooden weaponry is the equivalent of hitting a wall with your fist.)

[Loud Whispers]

(modded dwarves to consume sapients)

JinF.

You have trodden down the path of blasphemy.

By eating their diplomat, and being absolutely ok with eating sapients, you have proven that your Dwarves are more like Elves than Human and Goblins alike.

You have improved Elf-Dwarf relations.

You have made your Dwarves into Elves.

[WolfeyS]

I always figured eating elves, crapping them out, and letting that fertilize the trees was a dwarvenly approach.

[miauw62]

I always figured eating elves, crapping them out, and letting that fertilize the trees was a dwarvenly approach.

Why do i suddenly have the feel to try and make this in a mod...

[JinF]

Here's a tip.

You cannot go to war with the Elves unless you anger their diplomat.

Since this was getting me nowhere, I finally updated my dfhack and modded diplomats back in. Now I got the elf treecutter limiter pansy. After he told me "Let this be a warning to you bla bla bla I wear women's underwear" I proceeded to murder him in the middle of my dining hall