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[simonthedwarf]

Yep, I said it. It takes too much effort to micro manage. Everytime I get above 30+ dwarfs, I start to get annoyed. I want it to be smooth, and that means tight burrows, beds close to workshop and clean stockpiles. Once you go big, you go bad.

Bring it on.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

So limit yourself to less dwarfs then?

[Maklak]

To me the threshold is around a 100 or so Dwarves, but yes, more population is more clutter, anonymity, annoyance, and lower FPS.

Just set pop cap to 20 or whatever You feel comfortable with, and train specialists in many skills.

[BastiBasti]

But thats the point of DF! Growing until you cant handle the number of dwarfs you have, then watching it all go downhill. If that isn't the poing of DF, then i don't know what is.

...

besides killing elves with magma.

[simonthedwarf]

NO! I like it NEAT.

DF needs more jobs that take up several dwarfs. Assigning Idlers is a PAIN, and having them idle means they will be FRIENDS. And FRIENDS GET MAD WHEN OTHER FRIENDS DIEEEEE 

[Loud Whispers]

beds close to workshop and clean stockpiles.

You actually care about efficiency?

[Telgin]

To me the threshold is around a 100 or so Dwarves, but yes, more population is more clutter, anonymity, annoyance, and lower FPS.

Just set pop cap to 20 or whatever You feel comfortable with, and train specialists in many skills.

Same here.  100 feels about right.

Past that point, and the level of automation present in DF sorta doesn't keep pace with the demands of the dwarves.  200 is definitely pushing the limit of what I like to deal with.

I like my current fort of about 80.  I actually know reasonably large amounts about as many as 30 or 40 of them.  It feels cozy compared to my last 220 population fort of constant death and dragging FPS from the siege remains.

[Elifre]

1. Dwarf Therapist.
2. Project SPARTAN.
3. Project Blow-Up-World.
4. 
5. Profit!

With these five steps, you'll be well on your way to a successful fortress of over 200 dwarves.

[glinmaleldur]

Once I found Dwarf Therapist I really started getting into the chaos of larger forts. I also love having a military of 100 and in some ways it is tidy with more dwarves - as the idlers can all be haulers so stuff gets where it needs to be. Try to think of scaling your fort by degrees - if your metal industry is 3 dwarves, dig a duplicate workshop area and simply double the number of dwarves assigned. For things like furnace operation I don't take the time to look for dwarves starting with that skill, and plenty of jobs are like that for me. All the craft jobs really - I tend to use metal and stone for my high value items, the crafts are all just a way to clear clutter out of my fort.

[wierd]

I prefer 50 to 60.

Granted, that's not quite enough to handle a megaproject... (fortress is 20 dwarfyears old now... still hasn't finished outer casing walls. Greenglass block production going balls to the wall.... it just takes the stumpy bearded ones so long to haul them to the build site on the far edges of the map.  I have 15 zlevels of the outer casement wall done. I have about 9 more to go, then I have to start closing the top in a pyramid so that the point perfectly reaches the max permitted zlevel. Unlocking the pop to 100 has given me many more masons to work with, but is killing my fps.)

But for maximum enjoyability, I set it around 50 to 60.

[dwarfhoplite]

NO! I like it NEAT.

DF needs more jobs that take up several dwarfs. Assigning Idlers is a PAIN, and having them idle means they will be FRIENDS. And FRIENDS GET MAD WHEN OTHER FRIENDS DIEEEEE 

I think DF needs tasks to be completed more slowly

[simonthedwarf]

Once I found Dwarf Therapist I really started getting into the chaos of larger forts. I also love having a military of 100 and in some ways it is tidy with more dwarves - as the idlers can all be haulers so stuff gets where it needs to be. Try to think of scaling your fort by degrees - if your metal industry is 3 dwarves, dig a duplicate workshop area and simply double the number of dwarves assigned. For things like furnace operation I don't take the time to look for dwarves starting with that skill, and plenty of jobs are like that for me. All the craft jobs really - I tend to use metal and stone for my high value items, the crafts are all just a way to clear clutter out of my fort.

Which means more digging. Which means more dwarf. Which means more wealth, and more attackers. Which mean more corpses. And it just goes ON and ON. there's just not enough to do!  Having to manage corpse piles, HIDE all the stone is BLEH.

To me the threshold is around a 100 or so Dwarves, but yes, more population is more clutter, anonymity, annoyance, and lower FPS.

Just set pop cap to 20 or whatever You feel comfortable with, and train specialists in many skills.

This is totally the worst part. There is no sense of the progression, no time for managing rooms and making sure dwarves got it nice, reading their engravings blah blah.

[Maklak]

Yeah, I can get to know 20 or so Dwarves, but won't bother with 50+. I admire the dedication, it took some people to document their community forts, tough. Some let's plays, like Syrupleaf, have amazing attention to detail, and spin tails around single Dwarfs in large forts.
Dwarves dying in sieges and being replaced by immigrant recruits makes the anonymity worse too.

[Jimmy T. Malice]

I honestly don't care about efficiency. Besides building my fortress around a staircase, nothing my dwarves do is efficient. I have magma smelters down at the magma sea so that my dwarves have to carry all the smelted bars back up to the bar stockpiles, and my ammo stockpile is nowhere near my ballistas (although that's somewhat of a liability). I have 80 dwarves, maybe 30 of which are actually doing anything useful at a given time.

[Crazy Cow]

~40 is a good number for me. Any more than that and it starts feeling too large for me.