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[ZeroSumHappiness]

What if I told you that due to universal expansion, this is the truth of our universe?

[Eric Blank]

Well then cage traps are working perfectly. Thread over apparently

[Necro910]

Well then cage traps are working perfectly. Thread over apparently

Why are they persisting with me?                                                                                                                                     

The seams are everywhere

NO

IT NEVER, ENDS

                                                  but we were such friends

And together forever                                                           

but the walls                         

                                  in the end...

[DG]

I have a fair bit of experience experimenting with cage traps across a long line of releases and I don't use mods. It would be good if someone else could do a similar thing to confirm or deny. As it is, I'm going to assume that goblin leaders are immune to cage traps in the current version and that people haven't noticed, don't have the right circumstances to notice, or haven't played and are using previous knowledge. If its just me then it's an amazing bug.

[Eric Blank]

It may be just you. I have definitely played everything since some months before 40d (something with a 30, be damned if I remember exactly what.), and have never seen goblin leaders fail to be caught in cage traps, assuming they path over a loaded cage trap before one of their subordinates takes the plunge for them. They will sometimes path around them in short order, though, if another creature is occupying that space or they dodge an attack, although that creature usually ends up caught and a decent cage trap field should be substantial to capture a complete ambush.

[Random_Physics_Nerd]

No, cages are being calculated with cage size = ∞.

That explains why no one can break out of them.

This actually summons a horrifying image of an elf in a cage with an open door that no matter where he moves, is 2' away from him until the dwarves set him free.

I cannot explain how badly that would drive me to insanity.

Really? I'd get busy building my utopia inside my new personal universe using whatever I could grab from the floor the cage was sitting on. When the dwarves came to do whatever the overlord comanded be done with me they'd get caught in the traps I set up to defend my fortress inside the cage, which would almost certainly end up with at least a few of them caught in cages of their own. Repeat to infinity.

[Oliolli]

That could also explain why creatures in cages are immune to whatever happens outside (they are, right?) Whatever is outside never reaches the captive inside, due to extreme distances.

[ancistrus]

A rare picture from inside of a dwarven cage

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[JJtoocool]

A rare picture from inside of a dwarven cage

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You mean engraving... right? We don't do "pictures" here.

On topic: My cage traps (31.25) take out goblin squad leaders just as well as they take out giants. Pitting them to the magma chamber works too... Just not so much for the giants...

[Necro910]

That could also explain why creatures in cages are immune to whatever happens outside (they are, right?) Whatever is outside never reaches the captive inside, due to extreme distances.

Everything except

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MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The temperature still affects them.

Freezing and obsidianization probably do as well.

[Madventurer]

Everything except magma. The temperature still affects them.
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Did you just forget something? Or can you say it without yelling?

[Necro910]

Everything except magma. The temperature still affects them.

Did you just forget something? Or can you say it without yelling?

Yes, I can say it without yelling.

I may be eccentric, but I'm not braindamaged 
I'll fix it immediately.

[hjd_uk]

The idea of cages and infinty make me think that all cages are just portals to another cage in an infintly large black space ( See: Time Bandits ). Theres no where to escape to and the cage is bigger on the inside.

[Rince Wind]

I've had creatures being set free (and on fire) by dragons, because they can burn the wooden cages.

[fluffhead]

I have not had a goblin leader avoid a cage trap.  I'm using the Lazy newb pack with the current release of DF.    I've trapped all sorts of goblins, whips, spear, sword, jabberers, trolls, Goblin squad leaders (the masters or whatever they are called).  I don't think I've had a single goblin avoid a cage trap.  It must be you. 

In addition I didn't watch the video, but is it possible a weapon or fall trap caused the goblin to dodge, thus dodging OVER a caged trap?