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[InfinityWEAPON]

SO I'm a newb and....

I've been trying to mod in some new weapons (namely, guns) in such a way as to co-exist with crossbows. Unfortunately (being a newb) I've run into an endless slew of problems.

The most pressing of which is that the items I've tried to mod in don't seem to exist. The workshop and commands are there and 'work', however when I que up a 'create -gun-' order, the worker walks over, then walks away. The order dissapears. No weapons are made, no materials used, and no error messages.

I'm at a loss as to what I'm doing wrong

The basis of my coding is:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Reactions: [REACTION:MAKE_.45BULLETS]
   [NAME:make .45]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_B]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.45BULLETS]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_5.56BULLETS]
   [NAME:make 5.56]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_SHIFT_B]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_5.56BULLETS]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_.60BULLETS]
   [NAME:make .60]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_6]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:50:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.60BULLETS]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_SLUG]
   [NAME:make slug]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_S]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SLUG]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_PISTOL]
   [NAME:make pistol]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_P]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PISTOL]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_RIFLE]
   [NAME:make rifle]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_R]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RIFLE]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_SNIPER]
   [NAME:make sniper]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_S]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SNIPER]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

[REACTION:MAKE_RAILGUN]
   [NAME:make railgun]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_R]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN]
   [SKILL:WEAPONSMITHING]

The items:
[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.45BULLETS]
[NAME:.45 round:.45 rounds]
[CLASS:.45]
[SIZE:45]
[ATTACK:EDGE:1:50000:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:1000]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_5.56BULLETS]
[NAME:5.56 round:5.56 rounds]
[CLASS:5.56]
[SIZE:21]
[ATTACK:EDGE:1:50000:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:1000]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.60BULLETS]
[NAME:.60 round:.60 bullets]
[CLASS:.60]
[SIZE:60]
[ATTACK:EDGE:2:100000:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:1000]

[ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SLUG]
[NAME:slug:slugs]
[CLASS:SLUG]
[SIZE:200
[ATTACK:BLUNT:1000:5:stab:stabs:NO_SUB:1000]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PISTOL]
[NAME:pistol:pistols]
[SIZE:200]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:PISTOL:.45BULLETS]
[SHOOT_FORCE:1000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:1000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:1500]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:100:400:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:1250]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RIFLE]
[NAME:rifle:rifles]
[SIZE:2000]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:RIFLE:5.56BULLETS]
[SHOOT_FORCE:10000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:1000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:100000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:2]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:1000:4000:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:1250]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SNIPER]
[NAME:sniper:snipers]
[SIZE:3000]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[RANGED:SNIPER:.60BULLETS]
[SHOOT_FORCE:100000]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:1000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:15000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:3]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:2000:4000:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:1250]

[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN]
[NAME:railgun:railguns]
[SIZE:5000]
[SKILL_HAMMER]
[RANGED:RAILGUN:SLUG]
[SHOOT_FORCE:1000000]
[SHOOT_MAXVAL:1000]
[TWO_HANDED:0]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:30000]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:5]
[ATTACK:BLUNT:20000:40000:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:1250]

Note: The above are in the file corresponding to the beginning prefix I.e ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN is in the ITEM_WEAPON file.

If anyone could offer any insight into how to fix my troubles, I would be very grateful.

[Putnam]

Well, for one thing, all your guns are using skills like "RAILGUN" and "PISTOL"; you may want to fix those to CROSSBOW or such, E.G

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[RANGED:RAILGUN:SLUG]
Should be

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[RANGED:CROSSBOW:SLUG]
Also, you should look at your errorlog.txt.

[InfinityWEAPON]

Ah, thanks. I'll try that.

EDIT: Try'd, didn't seem to work.
Also, the errorlog is filled endlessly with pathing fails. Near the bottom, though I found that the 'WEAPONSMITHING' token I used isn't recognized. I'm gonna work from there.

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

[NAME:make .45]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_B]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.45BULLETS]
 your product line is wrong same with reagent they are too short it should be

[NAME:make .45]
   [BUILDING:GUN_SHOP:CUSTOM_B]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.45BULLETS:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
that should produce a 100 bullets from what ever metal the dwarf/creature grabs

You could also do
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:COPPER]
   [REAGENT:B:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:LEAD]
   [PRODUCT:100:100:ITEM_AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_.45BULLETS:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]

now its copper coated candy or hot lead (won't acually be hot lead or even related to that metal, the bullets would purely be copper)

[TurkeyXIII]

Delete the errorlog before each attempt, it'll make a new one with only the relevant errors.

Your products are all missing material lines.  Should be something like  [PRODUCT:100:1:ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]

You could probably do without the reactions completely, and add the weapons/ammo to the entity directly.  Only difference is they'd be made at a forge instead of the gun shop.

Bah, ninja'd

[InfinityWEAPON]

@Hugo_The_Dwarf:
Did as you said and the 'Make .45 bullets' option is suddenly redded out. Like an idiot, I forgot to bring a bar of metal with me, but I'll take that as success. Thanks for the tip.

[trees]

Instead of WEAPONSMITHING, you want FORGE_WEAPON. Skill tokens are a bit odd sometimes, the wiki has a list if you ever run in to any more problems with them.

And considering that most of your reactions simply require a metal bar, it would probably be much less work adding your items as weapons to entities so that they could be made at the forge, as others have stated.

[InfinityWEAPON]

@trees:
Yeah, I literally caught that at the last second. Fix'd.

Also, errorlog keeps spouting: *** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/item_weapon.txt"
ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN:Unrecognized Item Definition (Weapon) Token: SKILL_HAMMER
ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN:Unrecognized Item Definition (Weapon) Token: SHOOT_MAXVAL

and when I go to make .45 bullets the game freezes and quits out.

I think I'm going to add my weapons to the entities but I have NO idea as to how I should go about that procedure. Any help?

[Kipi]

@trees:
Yeah, I literally caught that at the last second. Fix'd.

Also, errorlog keeps spouting: *** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/item_weapon.txt"
ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN:Unrecognized Item Definition (Weapon) Token: SKILL_HAMMER
ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN:Unrecognized Item Definition (Weapon) Token: SHOOT_MAXVAL

and when I go to make .45 bullets the game freezes and quits out.

I think I'm going to add my weapons to the entities but I have NO idea as to how I should go about that procedure. Any help?

For the errors you should change the lines

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[SKILL_HAMMER]
[SHOOT_MAXVAL:1000]
to

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[SKILL:HAMMER]
[SHOOT_MAXVEL:1000]
Also, you have all the RANGED tags wrong. The tags go [RANGED:<skill used when shooting>:<bullet>]

I am not sure how the game handles the '.' characters in item names, you could perhaps just remove those. That may be the reason of crash.

Finally, to add weapon and ammo to entity just add the following lines under MOUNTAIN (dwarf) entity section:

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[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RAILGUN]
   [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SLUG]That's just an example of adding railgun and proper ammo to entity, look for the WEAPON:CROSSBOW inside the entity file for another example.

[Kweri]

Just a note - using METAL doesn't restrict your material of your bar to just metal. http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Material_token STONE and METAL are just aliases for INORGANIC.

That said, unless you've modded in making stone bars, I don't see this being an issue. Soap is not inorganic and coke/charcoal bars are their own material main type as well. Just wanted to point this out though for any future modding pursuits.

[Jake]

A word of warning. The slug is going to be totally useless in combat with a BLUNT tag; early versions of my own firearms mod used it for musket ammunition and it kept getting deflected by a simple pig tail cloth shirt, until a lucky shot to the head jammed the target's skull through their brain.

[InfinityWEAPON]

@Jake: Even if I ramp up the shooting force?

@Kweri: SO if I mod a little more I can make stone bullets....?

@Kipi: Pretty sure you just fixed my railgun problem, and also with the forge making my guns it works insofar as the sniper. Thanks alot!

EDIT: Verified that all guns can be made, right now I'm just testing if they actually work.

[narhiril]

It's better to use edge attacks with low area and high penetration for firearm-type weapons.  I know it doesn't seem as logical, but the engine handles it a lot better than small blunt objects.

[InfinityWEAPON]

@narhiril: Damn

Also, all the guns are functional as melee weapons, I haven't figured out how to make my military bring ammo with them, however.