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[a1s]

I'm having a weird bug. whenever I start a chase off by [F]ighting with my main fighter group they crash after the first volley of shots is exchanged. This does not seem to happen with my founder however.

update: it would seem that this happes when I don't have a designated driver, instead of choosing one (like it normally does), it just assumes that they are that bad (or that the driver was killed?) and crashes.

[ May 30, 2008: Message edited by: a1s ]

[Nonanonymous]

Not really feeling like starting a new thread up for this, but how do I effectively train my combat skills without drawing the police to my hideout or risking getting killed?

Oh, and this is really great game. 

[a1s]

there are 2 ways.

you can turn a conservative with good combat skills, and then have him teach you.
or
you can get a sleeper lawyer (or save up *fish*loads of money), then go kill a few people and turn yourself in to a police officer. the kicker is- it gives you a good amount of juice too.

[Gruegirl]

in the latest release, sometimes the dead count toward your recruitment cap

[Gruegirl]

Also wouldn't it make sense if you take the bouncer, make him a sleeper, to make you perma-guestlisted at the club?

[Alaern]

No, because a bouncer who lets a group of ragtag blood-covered ruffians wielding medieval mauls into a conservative club will lose his job sooner than you say "liberal".

[a1s]

there are 2 kinds of not getting in.
you are not dressed right.
or
the bouncer has a gut feeling about you.
obviously a sleeper bouncer would only let you through if you were dressed right.

[EuchreJack]

in the latest release, sometimes the dead count toward your recruitment cap

You can remove the dead from your recruitment cap by disposing of the bodies.

Interesting bug in regards to this, if a leader dies and the body is recovered, sometimes the organization under the leader won't disappear until after the body of the leader is disposed of.

Thus, if your leader dies with no successor, train a successor before desposing of the body! 
Course, don't let the cops raid your safehouse before then, otherwise they'll bury the body for you. 

[Liberal Elitist]

I once had a squad return from a mission with all 6 members of the squad dead (in the current version, 3.12.2).  After I told the game to Wait a day, the program crashed.  I have never had a leader die but get to keep the organization under the leader, though.  That would be cool.  Something weird: if you get a sleeper inside the Conservative Crime Squad and your money gets low, they move to the Homeless Shelter.  Then if Corporate Mercenaries come by and massacre everyone (of course all my other people are somewhere else), the only people who get massacred at the Homeless Shelter are the CCS Vigilante sleepers.  It would be nice if CCS Vigilante sleepers moved along with the rest of the Conservative Crime Squad, so that if you take over the Bar & Grill, they move to the Fallout Shelter, and after you take over the Fallout Shelter they move to the Robert E. Lee Bunker along with the rest of the Conservative Crime Squad.  And sleepers should not move back to the Homeless Shelter, that is retarded.  I wonder if CCS sleepers even have any effect if they are at a different location than the rest of the Conservative Crime Squad.

[E. Albright]

It's not just if your money gets low. I've flipped CCS bosses, and had their location immediately listed as the homeless shelter, and/or seen that as where they disappeared from. Seems a bit odd to me; what Arch Conservative is gonna follow some lazy parasite who's content to live on the dole and never pull himself up by his bootstraps?

[yggiz]

It's not just if your money gets low. I've flipped CCS bosses, and had their location immediately listed as the homeless shelter, and/or seen that as where they disappeared from. Seems a bit odd to me; what Arch Conservative is gonna follow some lazy parasite who's content to live on the dole and never pull himself up by his bootstraps?

Just say hypocracy, like finding CCS goons buying drugs or whatever at the crackhouses. The Boss could also be headlining a Welfare-to-Work program office, fitting army uniforms and .44's onto Transients and Crack Heads who are THERE enough to sign on a dotted line. That would be rugged individualism at its best!

Plenty of story-things to explain bugs.

I love it when my sleepers die of old age, lol Guess I don't need retirees THAT much.

[Khlor]

I have a bug to report (though maybe it's been reported already): when I play my Liberal Black Metal to several Conservatives, as soon as one of them turns Liberal, he starts to attack his former comrades... which is all right... but he continues doing so even after they've turned Liberal as well.

[Edit] Also, I have a Liberal who was born in a month with no name (just an empty string before the day number) [/Edit]

[Khlor]

Another probable bug with music turnees. I had a Sequrity Guard turned Liberal and immediately shot a Corporate Manager to death. The LCS wass accused of murder by newspapers, though the squad consisted solely of peaceful hippies with guitars.

[mainiac]

Sounds like an unintentional feature to me.  Chicken hawks can get people killed and blame it on other people.  Liberals own up to thier messes, even the ones that aren't their fault.  Which are you?

[Jonathan S. Fox]

I think whether it's a problem or not depends on whether your squad was actually charged with murder or if it's just the news reporting on LCS engaging in murder. The news isn't likely to distinguish between a person who was aiding your squad and your actual squad as far as reporting on the destruction the LCS causes, while the police should.