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[Itnetlolor]

December 2012 is when I get drunk, and the day after I go on a rampage because I realized that I only had half a year to go until I was sober for seven years.

I have plans to throw an Apocalypse/Pre-Christmas party (which can maybe triple as my nephew's birthday party as well).

Sounds like a fun day. May need to order enough drinks and such to rival a tavern however.

[Knirisk]

They don't ever give up do they

I'm just wondering at this point:

All countries must provide a "making available" right to copyright holders, such that simply offering a file through BitTorrent would be grounds for a lawsuit even if no one downloaded the file.

How the hell would they trace BitTorrent? Why the hell would they put all that effort into doing so? That would be extremely difficult and costly.

[MagmaMcFry]

I've heard of a common phrase that could possibly describe all that is happening here:

"Management is a process where a bunch of people supporting A have a meeting and agree on B."

[Heron TSG]

ALREADY!? The 'Protect Children From Internet Pornographers' Act reveals itself once again. Now they're trying to do the exact same thing, but giving it a name they can use in attack ads if their opponents vote against it.

Fuck. This thing was primarily authored by Lamar Smith, the same guy who wrote SOPA.

[MaximumZero]

I don't want to say that we should assassinate this guy...but...I wouldn't cry about it if it happened. Then again, I don't know about his track record in any other capacity as far as jobs creation or whatever, so I'll just toss that in the "potentially bad ideas" bucket.

[Darvi]

ALREADY!? The 'Protect Children From Internet Pornographers' Act reveals itself once again. Now they're trying to do the exact same thing, but giving it a name they can use in attack ads if their opponents vote against it.

Fuck. This thing was primarily authored by Lamar Smith, the same guy who wrote SOPA.

There should be a constitutional law against naming bills.

[Frumple]

One of those other bits I picked up elsewhere: This, the "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011." Here's the "fun" part, from what I can see:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(h) Retention of Certain Records-

 `(1) A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section.

 `(2) Access to a record or information required to be retained under this subsection may not be compelled by any person or other entity that is not a governmental entity.

Illusion of privacy? Shit, you don't even get that anymore. Excellent example of trying to slip something frakking horrible through the cracks? Yup!

An aside, but total honesty: Whoever allowed something -- anything -- to be titled like that needs to be flogged, fired, and then kept at least 100 yards from, and completely incommunicado with, any decision making process for the rest of their lives.

Brought it up in the other thread, bleh. This particular monstrosity has been trying to go through since at least SOPA/PIPA happened. Pretty sure it was timed that way, to let the latter hide it from public attention.

[MagmaMcFry]

ALREADY!? The 'Protect Children From Internet Pornographers' Act reveals itself once again. Now they're trying to do the exact same thing, but giving it a name they can use in attack ads if their opponents vote against it.

Fuck. This thing was primarily authored by Lamar Smith, the same guy who wrote SOPA.

Erm... Isn't that just an article about the original PIPA?

[Frumple]

Um, no? It's not. New bill, different bill.

Frakking horrific bill and that Lamar bastid needs to be kept from naming or having g'damn anything to do with any bills, ever again.

[MagmaMcFry]

Googled it, and it looks like there is some confusion about the Protect IP Act (PIPA) and the HR 1981 bill (Protect Children from Internet Pornography Act, PCIP). Sounds like "PIPA" is used for both bills, because I've definitely heard about "Protect Children from Internet Pornography Act" before, used in "PIPA" context.

[SalmonGod]

How the hell would they trace BitTorrent? Why the hell would they put all that effort into doing so? That would be extremely difficult and costly.

Open torrent file with torrenting client.  Look at peers list.  It's not terribly safe.  I try to stick with private, invite-only trackers.  I believe IRC is actually your best bet if you want to minimize your chances of getting caught.

[Max White]

Or you can get behind a proxy.
Tor is alright for that.

[Johnfalcon99977]

If some kind of Gobal Revolution happens on 2012 instead of an Apocalypse, I would infinitely happier.

I'm not the kind of guy to start one, but I would most definitely join one. At this point all I'd need is someone to lead me.

[King DZA]

At this point all I'd need is someone to lead me.

And that, my friend, is why any attempt at such a revolution would be in vain.

[SalmonGod]

At this point all I'd need is someone to lead me.

And that, my friend, is why any attempt at such a revolution would be in vain.

No.  This why crowd-sourced and consensus-based models of organization via mass communications technology work.  People no longer need a leader in the traditional sense, just broadcast discussion.  People will act when a course of action is suggested that they agree with and have the capability to contribute to.  I'm pretty sure that the only way a modern revolution could happen is via prolonged series of spontaneous collective actions that can't be easily shut down.