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[Darvi]

Darvi:  Let's say someone has one set of wincons, but a certain event will make them change their wincon.  They posted their current wincons but didn't mention the ability that made it change.

If someone checked the truthfulness of that post, what would be the result?

Depends.

[Toaster]

Depends on what?

[Darvi]

On the exact contents of their post and their actual wincons.

[Jack A T]

Okay.  I'm Mixer (so I'm playing myself.)  The ability is Default Scum IC, making me scummy from hanging around all the scum chats.  The weird flavor behind it (at that point) made me figure you were someone like Jim, with an army of Jimbots type miller.  What is the flavor behind your ability?

Just to confirm, you're Derpy, right?

I am Derpy.  My miller ability is Cookies!.  I have a history of trading cookies for souls, so I look like a cult leader.  Apparently, the Dark Side is like a cult.

On why I didn't die with PM: I'm immortal.  However, I ragequit if I get lynched or NKed, so I effectively die that way.  I asked Darvi, and he said that the entire purpose of my immortality is to make me survive if my lover dies.  That, and because it's funny.

Also, as a side note, I misremembered this (wrote this bit purely by memory).  It was PM who would have died if I died, and the purpose of my immortality was to prevent him from dying because I wouldn't really have died.  Darvi just pointed out my mistake in loverchat.  Also, Romeo and Juliet are idiots, apparently.

Ugh.

[Jim Groovester]

On the exact contents of their post and their actual wincons.

If they claimed town when they are town, but they can turn into a hostile third party at some point, would that still be true?

[Darvi]

Why would anybody change their alignment?

[Jim Groovester]

Because they changed their win condition.

[Darvi]

After they worked so hard to achieve their first wincon? That'd be kinda pointless.

But ultimately it would depend on whether they were aware of this change beforehand or not.

[Jack A T]

After they worked so hard to achieve their first wincon? That'd be kinda pointless.

But ultimately it would depend on whether they were aware of this change beforehand or not.

Darvi: How so?  Would you, as a mod, be willing to make a role with a changing wincon like that, in a game like this?  Or is it too bastardy for a non-bastard game like this one, where I supposedly saw the most bastardy the game would get way at the start of the game?

[Darvi]

Darvi: How so?  Would you, as a mod, be willing to make a role with a changing wincon like that, in a game like this?  Or is it too bastardy for a non-bastard game like this one, where I supposedly saw the most bastardy the game would get way at the start of the game?

Yes, but only if there's a cult. Yes, unless there's a cult.

[Jim Groovester]

I guess that answers that question.

Unvote.

[Toaster]

Extend until Web gets on and does something.


Since I think Darvi's post tells us that Jack isn't an SK, I'm torn.  Jim has claimed "Town-Ally," a very odd alignment that is essentially a townie that inspects as Third Party.  Web inspected town, but has been killing people every night.  Yes, his targets have matched up for a vig claim, but that's no guarantee.

[Jack A T]

Extend.

Checking something quickly.

Darvi: If the last two living players are Webadict and a townie, Webadict is an SK, and Webadict has an NK delayed on him (that is to say, Webadict was the target of an NK during the night, and it will take effect the next night), who wins?  Would the "everybody dies" condition of my stated wincon be fufilled?  Would town be considered victorious at that point in the game?

[Darvi]

If webadict was a SK and ad a delayed NK on him? He'd die at the end of the day, before he would be able to kill the townie. Clear townie win there.

[Jack A T]

Excellent.

My idea:
*We lynch Toaster.
*I NK Webadict.
*Webadict NKs Jim.

The only ways I can see this going wrong depend on multiple anti-town third parties remaining.

Toaster gets lynched because of Jim's protection.
I NK Webadict to prevent his victory, if he is scum.
Webadict NKs Jim because Jim can't stop Webadict.

How does this sound?