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[penngo009]

Sorry, i posted that a bit fast. The people who looked at webadict; Dariush, and Think0028. Why did you chose this? The proof? No assumptions....? Ridiculous guesses......? Or was it the scum getting rid of who they thought was going to figure them out? Also please be more active you two.

[Leafsnail]

Leafsnail, why would I lie about the actions of person who I replaced? I don't even know what he was technically "thinking" when he did them. Do you think we have the same brain or something? I don't know why you're thinking otherwise anyways. He told me that I was a Technology Specialist.

You'd lie about them because I pointed out Powder Miner's block on Orangebottle was a scumblock.  And the main problems with you are things you have done: Failure to come up with a rolename until prompted (and I'm not sure if this new rolename makes much sense anyway - it's vague and two words rather than one), a claim that doesn't fit the roleflips ("(Townie)"?  Really?) and repeated FoSing without any actual attacks.

I haven't asked you to explain Powder Miner's actions, but you are the same alignment as him.  Him replacing out doesn't wipe the slate clean (incidentally, he was voting webadict yesterday).

[NativeForeigner]

Dariush: I would hardly call a second vote bandwagoning.

Leafsnail: I am playing.

Penngo009:

You said that the role-blocker would be mafia, I wanted to clean up any weird accusations.I didn't get a specific name when Toaster PMed me, though. Powder(Me now) didn't block orange N1 though(Blocked Glyph glyph). N2 I didn't do anything(Probable because he needed a replacement, but I have no idea.) So Leafsnail, why are you crazy to kill me? You're sure acting like you are.

Pretty sure you're lying. I got a quote of my predecessor's role PM when I replaced in, you should have too.

You also voted Leafy when he called you out for not doing so and then waffled your vote. You're also trying to build an argument on the fact that people attacking Think and Dariush have died. That's a terrible argument, I'm fairly certain that they're good enough to do something as blatant as that, and you triple-posted, which makes it seem like you're panicking (you probably are).

Those could be seen as newbie mistakes, but the odd roleclaim makes me think otherwise.

[NativeForeigner]

EBWODP:

Just realized I missed your follow-up claim. Leafsnail brings up a good point, your role name doesn't really fit. Technology Specialist doesn't have that commando ring to it and it doesn't fit with the other flips.

[Think0028]

Penngo: The fudge? What are you even saying? Are you saying that I suspected Webadict and am thus obviously scum? Or are you saying Webadict suspected me and thus am obviously scum?

[Ottofar]

Extend, and uh. What.

[penngo009]

You had a terrible reason for even voting for him....I'm just wondering why. Think0028, also why did you basically flip out with that post? Looks like a scum just got scared.

[penngo009]

Also read my 2nd post on the situation...It makes a little more sense.

[Dariush]

Penngo, I know this is your first game and I kept telling myself this when I was reading the fresh posts, but what you're doing transcends all sane borders.

- You repeatedly FoS Leaf, then vote only when prompted only to unvote him immediatly;
- You repeatedly FoSed me and Think (hey, that's three players FoSed already!);
- You began your case from an absurd standpoint about Wuba, and WIFOMy one at that;
- You overreacted to Think's question and OMGUSed him;
- You panic by writing numerous short posts, constantly fixing your mistakes in previous ones;
And the coup de grace:
- You claimed that the person you replaced told you your role name. Not the mod.

[penngo009]

Here, is were Dariush comes in to try to save himself, and his scummbuddy. I was an idiot accusing Leafsnail constantly at first, as he wasn't suspicious. Remember, I came from replacing a role. It wasn't really me panicking, either.  It was me saying what I wanted to say too fast. I think he suspected webadict upon very little, and webadict also died on very little. Not to mention, HE ENDS UP TOWN. So you went through with the assumption he was scum, HE WAS TOWN. You're gonna vote me around the assumption I'm mafia too now? I'm sorry but we need to get crap done or this game is over. In fact, webadict ended up to have a pretty important role for getting mafia, am I not correct? Thats why you wanted him dead. Also I implied that Toaster told me that role name, but apparently you can't realize that. Also look at what NativeForeigner said. You really think Toaster would send him his role name but not mine? That would seem quite odd. I also agree to Extend. Things must happen.

[Toaster]

Vote Count:

NativeForeigner:
Orangebottle: Ottofar
penngo009: NativeForeigner, Dariush
Think0028: penngo009
Ottofar: Orangebottle
Dariush:
Leafsnail:

Not Voting:  Think0028, Leafsnail

Day 3 will last until Tuesday 2/14 at 11 PM EST, ~6 hours from now.

Two votes to extend.  Three needed to extend the day.

[Leafsnail]

I am voting penngo.  Extend because there is not currently a majority on him and scum can still ninja the vote (this is why I prefer hammers).

I care because it is lylo and we will lose if we don't lynch scum today, Penngo.  If you are town you should claim truthfully.  Since you are not doing so I guess that would make you scum who's struggling to think of a falseclaim.

Penngo... your argument still does not make sense because the person you replaced voted webadict too.  Thus his playerslot (now occupied by you) is just as scummy as anyone else who voted webadict yesterday.

I'd also like you to tell us why you weren't able to tell us your actual roleclaim at first, as well as why you felt it necessary to say you were (Townie) when no such reference is made in any of the flipped PMs.

[Orangebottle]

Penngo is just too scummy to not be scum.

You had a terrible reason for even voting for him....I'm just wondering why. Think0028, also why did you basically flip out with that post? Looks like a scum just got scared.

How was Think flipping out at all? I don't see it.

Here, is were Dariush comes in to try to save himself, and his scummbuddy. I was an idiot accusing Leafsnail constantly at first, as he wasn't suspicious.

Why would you vote for somebody that isn't suspicious?

You're gonna vote me around the assumption I'm mafia too now?

The only solid proof we can ever have on scum comes from the nightgame, and we have no cop. The day game is the only way we can get rid of scum in LYLO, and you have failed spectacularly.

In fact, webadict ended up to have a pretty important role for getting mafia, am I not correct? Thats why you wanted him dead.

And how was he supposed to know what Webadict's role was?

Also I implied that Toaster told me that role name, but apparently you can't realize that. Also look at what NativeForeigner said. You really think Toaster would send him his role name but not mine? That would seem quite odd.

Then why didn't you claim it initially, and why did you claim in pieces?

Extend.

[penngo009]

I am voting penngo.  Extend because there is not currently a majority on him and scum can still ninja the vote (this is why I prefer hammers).

I care because it is lylo and we will lose if we don't lynch scum today, Penngo.  If you are town you should claim truthfully.  Since you are not doing so I guess that would make you scum who's struggling to think of a falseclaim.

Penngo... your argument still does not make sense because the person you replaced voted webadict too.  Thus his playerslot (now occupied by you) is just as scummy as anyone else who voted webadict yesterday.

I'd also like you to tell us why you weren't able to tell us your actual roleclaim at first, as well as why you felt it necessary to say you were (Townie) when no such reference is made in any of the flipped PMs.

I wouldn't of have voted webadict of Day 2 if I had the choice, but thats not how things work. For the 10th time I don't think like Powder Miner. How am I supposed to know WHY Powder Miner voted as he did. I don't know HOW Powder Miner thinks....>.< I hope you can actually realize that. Also I basically stated what Toaster told me in that PM I got from him. Also even if I was mafia why would I make such a ridiculously big and risky move? That'd be an idiotic thing to do, and possible one of the worst things to do this late, because the mafia just want nobody drawing much attention to them very often, especially in later in the game. Why do you think they acted a bit surprised? It was because they thought MAN WE ALREADY WON before I said what I did. My bad, after today they will. :/

[Leafsnail]

I wouldn't of have voted webadict of Day 2 if I had the choice, but thats not how things work. For the 10th time I don't think like Powder Miner. How am I supposed to know WHY Powder Miner voted as he did. I don't know HOW Powder Miner thinks....>.< I hope you can actually realize that.

I realise that 100%.

But if you're saying that those voting webadict were scum that makes Powder Miner scum.  Which makes you scum.  Him replacing out of the game doesn't mean we should ignore his play.  I don't expect you to explain his actions.  I expect you to die.

Also I basically stated what Toaster told me in that PM I got from him.

So did Toaster give you your rolename immediately or not?

Also even if I was mafia why would I make such a ridiculously big and risky move? That'd be an idiotic thing to do, and possible one of the worst things to do this late, because the mafia just want nobody drawing much attention to them very often, especially in later in the game.

Being mafia doesn't mean you can't make mistakes.  Yes, I'm sure you wouldn't want to accidentally claim completely the wrong flavour for your role.  But you did, and the only reason I can think of for this is because your actual rolename is explicitly ninja-like.

Why do you think they acted a bit surprised? It was because they thought MAN WE ALREADY WON before I said what I did. My bad, after today they will. :/

Who?  And explain what you mean by "surprise".