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[Dariush]

Dariush:Why aren't you scumhunting? Pretty sure sitting there and letting everyone else scumhunt for you is activelurking.

I already found scum which is so scum that it even refuses to answer questions.

Where are these two questions that Webadict was asked regarding his vote? I can't find them.

#212 is PM's question, #224 is (allegorical) mine.

* Dariush reads the rest of the new posts...

Actually, you yourself claim that he ignores 90% of questions. Why are you specifically interested in those two I mentioned?

[Toaster]

NativeForeigner has replaced Urist Imiknorris.

Vote Count:

NativeForeigner:
Orangebottle:
Powder Miner: NativeForeigner, ToonyMan
Think0028:
Ottofar: Orangebottle, Leafsnail
Dariush:
ToonyMan:
webadict: Powder Miner, Dariush, Think0028, IronyOwl
IronyOwl: webadict
Leafsnail:

Not Voting:  Ottofar

Day has been mod extended due to replacement.  Day 2 will last until Wednesday 2/8 at 11 PM EST.


Thanks for replacing- we're back up to full!

[webadict]

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That's just great guys. Just fucking perfect.
Scum isn't going to catch itself.
Webadict: Why aren't you fighting? Pretty sure Dariush had a post with his actual voting reasons that you could fight.

Why aren't you voting for Think? Afraid of being accused of OMGUS and being called a hypocrite?
Why didn't you respond to Dariush's post?

Dariush:Why aren't you scumhunting? Pretty sure sitting there and letting everyone else scumhunt for you is activelurking.

Where are these two questions that Webadict was asked regarding his vote? I can't find them.

Ottofar: Fuck you.

Extend because I'd like us to actually lynch scum today, and we have two scum tied for lynching. All we need to decide is which goes first.

Oh look, an example of content AND an example of a post webadict ignored! Actually, wait, that's TWO fucking posts.

lol? Yeah. I'm not fighting.

I stopped caring about Dariush. IronyOwl kept saying things that were completely false for several reasons. Plus, he wasn't very clear about any of that, so whatever. I'm glad that's 90% of all posts directed at me, and that you are SO VERY ACTIVE BY ASKING USELESS QUESTIONS. I mean, honestly, I can really only take one person being a hypocritical liar at once, so can I at least take down IronyOwl before  have to deal with you?

And what? I'm supposed to be voting Think? That doesn't make any sense! Why would I be voting Think!? I'm a little busy trying to get people to realize that IronyOwl has posted NO ARGUMENT AGAINST ME and that everyone else who's voting me is riding on some invisible argument that I have yet to see. Except Dariush, who's argument lacks a brain, but he's Dariush so I can see why.

Edit: My bad. I see what you mean about Think now. However, it's a little hard to fight 1v2, so you keep doing your thing where you basically count as no one, so I can keep fighting at fair odds.

How about you read into the context of the post. Also, I was pointing out that that was two posts webadict ignored. Learn to read or get out. The door is over there.

How about YOU read the conTENT of your post. It says that it's content! WATCH!

Oh look, an example of content AND an example of a post webadict ignored! Actually, wait, that's TWO fucking posts.

Seriously, one liar at a time.

Toony: What do you mean mean by 'flat denial?' Do you mean me denying that I haven't posted enough? Because I'm sure as hell not denying that.

Webadict: So you randomly guessed one of the two killers during the night. [sarcasm]I find this highly believable.[/sarcasm]

Reasons I think Irony is town:
1) He hasn't flipped out once, unlike you.
2) He was instantly upfront about his decision, with logic I find sound.
3) You're claiming insane things about him (he has posted about things other than you, and repeatedly), and he's been simple about denying them.

Even if he's not town and just an SK, the fact that you're so hyper-focused on him suggests paranoia about what he can accomplish, most likely as a scum player.

However, that's now largely irrelevant, as I find your claims preposterous and your normal calm demeanor failing. You are panicking scum, go hang.

Jesus Christ. What did I say? One liar at a time!

Are you serious? There's NO WAY you can believe any of that. He flipped out when I told him I had no role, and voted me instantly out of anger with false reasons that he admitted to! He flipped out when I said he killed someone, and he immediately claimed and threw suspicion on ME for revealing it! He repeatedly tried blaming his claiming on me! Am I the only one that didn't get dropped on my head as a baby?

Number two should go against him, seeing as how he blames me for not being discrete about it when HE CLAIMED IT HIMSELF! Where were you then, Think? Did that not make sense to you then? Or does it only make sense when IronyOwl does it?

And number three... Wow. No, have you been paying attention? He has done absolutely nothing all day EXCEPT berate me for him claiming it by himself. The fact that he did it all by himself and with the least pressure I've ever seen someone crack under is astonishingly stupid of him. It's like... WOW! I've never seen anyone break so easily before! And with no pressure at all! It was so miraculously easy! The fact that number three is also you defending him is wholly worrisome, especially since he has suddenly dropped his argument against you from yesterday because he could care less.

I'm going to have to say, that you and IronyOwl would probably vote me no matter what for any reason you can make up. I guess I can see why, as I got IronyOwl to claim to a kill without any pressure at all, and you seem to have taken offense to that. A vigilante doesn't just crack like that. He wanted to look Town. He said, "You're welcome." He says that he used other people's judgement yesterday. He was trying to be a buddy to the Town. You're buddying up to him. So, neither of these arguments are for you or him. Because, for whatever reason, you will both sit there and lie.

I don't need a calm demeanor. Why? Because I'm angry that no one else can see that you and IronyOwl are lying.

I'm supposed to be calm that lies go unnoticed? No. I'm going to be as angry as possible until, even if I'm lynched, I at least leave you and IronyOwl with scars you will never recover from. So, keep coming at me. I will rip you and everything you say apart limb from bloody stump of a limb, you lying sack of a whore.

Do it. That's a challenge. Now you woke a sleeping giant, sluts.

[ToonyMan]

Toony: What do you mean mean by 'flat denial?' Do you mean me denying that I haven't posted enough? Because I'm sure as hell not denying that.

You are avoiding the issue.  I read through this whole game, I didn't even realize you were playing until somebody mentioned you.  I went back to find you posting little bold posts on everybody like right now.

Dariush:Why aren't you scumhunting? Pretty sure sitting there and letting everyone else scumhunt for you is activelurking.

I already found scum which is so scum that it even refuses to answer questions.

Wait, did you seriously just say that?  Dariush, care to explain why you don't want to hunt ninjas?

NativeForeigner, a post on your thoughts would be cool.

[Dariush]

Wait, did you seriously just say that?  Dariush, care to explain why you don't want to hunt ninjas?

Oh, I sure do. I noticed that since your replacement you didn't even once address the issue of Wuba shamelessly shrugging off questions, voting without any evidence and generally being an ass, but instead you two chainsaw each other and now you FoSed me for no reason other than me calling him scum. Why do I get a feeling you are some kind of scum lovers?...

[ToonyMan]

Diverting our attention to Webadict again are we?  You completely ignored my damn question.  Look at the sheer length in response you made to my delicately dealt inquiry:

Wait, did you seriously just say that?  Dariush, care to explain why you don't want to hunt ninjas?

Oh, I sure do.

Just trying to point out the details here.  I already made my comments on Webadict, no reason to avoid the subject here then eh Dariush?  Flat answers are a no go.  What I see here is a ninja using his dastardly tricks to fool our minds.  I'm not falling for that showbiz!

[webadict]

Wait, did you seriously just say that?  Dariush, care to explain why you don't want to hunt ninjas?

Oh, I sure do. I noticed that since your replacement you didn't even once address the issue of Wuba shamelessly shrugging off questions, voting without any evidence and generally being an ass, but instead you two chainsaw each other and now you FoSed me for no reason other than me calling him scum. Why do I get a feeling you are some kind of scum lovers?...

Why ya gotta WIFOM like-a that?

Seriously, though, you literally matter nothing to me, and your questions (if I can call them that) are boring and stupid. I feel no inclination to answer them because they--and by relation, you--serve no point. Voting without evidence? You mean when I voted you? Man, so you're still OMGUSing over that? It's probably because you were being scummy. If you weren't so scummy, you probably wouldn't've gotten voted. Unfortunately, I've got people that actually contribute voting me for no reason, whereas your reasons are basically retaliatory over who cares, giving you free range to do nothing all Day.

And, he actually did mention me being a jerk. Shows how much you read/contribute/care/matter.

[NativeForeigner]

So I'm now Urist Imiknorris. Would someone catch me up on the most recent happenings while I go through the thread?

[IronyOwl]

webadict:

Really?

Everything in this post is garbage.

Normally I'd feel compelled to explain why, but evidently that's not the way you roll. So, tell you what: I'll actually address your post when you address mine.

Spoiler: Also (click to show/hide)

I'm supposed to be calm that lies go unnoticed? No. I'm going to be as angry as possible until, even if I'm lynched, I at least leave you and IronyOwl with scars you will never recover from. So, keep coming at me. I will rip you and everything you say apart limb from bloody stump of a limb, you lying sack of a whore.

Do it. That's a challenge. Now you woke a sleeping giant, sluts.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man, I never thought I'd see the huffy, impotent "Y-Y-Y-YOU'LL BE SORRY!" response from the mighty webadict.

Toony:

Webadict is being a dick but I don't think he's scum, same for IronyOwl.  I really don't see why mafia IronyOwl wold want to kill GG.  IronyOwl is probably just being a pissed off stubborn town.

Why not? He's flatly refusing to answer questions, spewing obviously false garbage, and either just so happened to correctly guess one of the game's killers for no reason or is in cahoots with an actioncop.

Also, where am I being stubborn?



Native:

So I'm now Urist Imiknorris. Would someone catch me up on the most recent happenings while I go through the thread?

The most recent happening has been the IronyOwl-webadict thing. Nothing else has really happened at all, actually, prior to Toony getting here.

Short version:

Two people died last night, Jim and GlyphGryph. Come morning, webadict claims I killed someone. I say yeah. He says kill = mafia. I say really, mafia wanted GG dead? He says okay, yeah, unvotes. I ask why this didn't make sense from the start. He starts flinging shit. I press as to why he outed me as a vig and him as an actioncop with a 50% chance that I'd killed Jim and a 50% chance I'd killed someone he'd earlier said he'd instantly hammer given the opportunity. He tells me to fuck myself and continues flinging shit, including suddenly revisiting why I killed GG because that's kind of suspicious now, despite unvoting and dropping it until I attacked him.

This more or less continues for several days, at which point he flatly ignores everything (this part was normal, except that he didn't even bother with breaking it down and swearing at each piece, he just ignored it) and declares that he didn't even have a role, meaning he either randomly guessed one of the killers for no reason (he'd expressed no suspicion of me earlier) or is in cahoots with an actioncop who didn't want to reveal himself. Needless to say, I then voted him and he returned to making long but useless posts, but only on his terms, and voted me.

So, yeah.

[ToonyMan]

Toony:

Webadict is being a dick but I don't think he's scum, same for IronyOwl.  I really don't see why mafia IronyOwl wold want to kill GG.  IronyOwl is probably just being a pissed off stubborn town.

Why not? He's flatly refusing to answer questions, spewing obviously false garbage, and either just so happened to correctly guess one of the game's killers for no reason or is in cahoots with an actioncop.

Also, where am I being stubborn?

I think he's just being too happy with himself.  Whether it's from playing around with you and convincing himself he got you good or you're actually scum and he's on to something are two different things.  I can't say I agree with his methods but I think they work.  Heck I've done it in past games as town even if it's a way to get some people to hate you, especially the target of the trick.

You're being stubborn because you keep butting heads with Webadict over the same issue.  You need to approach a different way or do something else, well do that or wait and see I guess.  But wait and seeing isn't a town-move.  Anyway, being stubborn can hurt because you end up shitting up the thread with words words words words and it gives nervous town and mafia the perfect opportunity to sit back and watch the show.

Although I hope a few more players add some of their own thought into this today.  A few people haven't post in about 24 hours since I got here.  NativeForeigner needs to show some neck too.

[webadict]

webadict:

Really?

Everything in this post is garbage.

Normally I'd feel compelled to explain why, but evidently that's not the way you roll. So, tell you what: I'll actually address your post when you address mine.

I did address your post. Your post has no solid facts, proof, or a real argument, and you have admitted that. The fact that it sucks as much as you is not surprising.

Not only that, but your flat refusal to defend yourself is scummy. You have lied. This is proven. Do I need to show you? Alright, why don't you just lie back and I'll show you. You're good at that.

Lying about your role to out someone you didn't suspect

This is a lie. Right here! I never ONCE claimed to be a Watchman. That was you rolefishing. You were rolefishing the entire time.

Dropping the issue until they attack you

Honestly, you were the one freaking out over claiming yourself. The fact that you continually OMGUS me is a fact that you're a whiny whore, and I'm surprised you're so easy. To trick.

Refusing to answer questions

Oh boy! Not only is this an argument against me in EVERY SINGLE GAME EVER, it's also the stupidest one. It's basically for those people that believe their questions are so magnificent that they must be answered, but usually they're not. Show me a question of relevance that I didn't answer.

Slinging bullshit

Right. Doesn't provide quotes for this because it never happened. Instead, instavotes me after I claim townie because he got tricked.

I've found a scumadict. I'm sure your actioncop buddy appreciates taking the fall for him.

You've found jack squat. The fact that you THINK you found me is laughable at best, and you're really just getting on your knees and hoping you're right.

The most recent happening has been the IronyOwl-webadict thing. Nothing else has really happened at all, actually, prior to Toony getting here.

Short version:

Two people died last night, Jim and GlyphGryph. Come morning, webadict claims I killed someone. I say yeah. He says kill = mafia. I say really, mafia wanted GG dead? He says okay, yeah, unvotes. I ask why this didn't make sense from the start. He starts flinging shit. I press as to why he outed me as a vig and him as an actioncop with a 50% chance that I'd killed Jim and a 50% chance I'd killed someone he'd earlier said he'd instantly hammer given the opportunity. He tells me to fuck myself and continues flinging shit, including suddenly revisiting why I killed GG because that's kind of suspicious now, despite unvoting and dropping it until I attacked him.

This more or less continues for several days, at which point he flatly ignores everything (this part was normal, except that he didn't even bother with breaking it down and swearing at each piece, he just ignored it) and declares that he didn't even have a role, meaning he either randomly guessed one of the killers for no reason (he'd expressed no suspicion of me earlier) or is in cahoots with an actioncop who didn't want to reveal himself. Needless to say, I then voted him and he returned to making long but useless posts, but only on his terms, and voted me.

So, yeah.

Hehehe...

Man, you are such a liar.

You can tell how much someone pays attention by their words. You see, there's a multitude of lies in here.

First of all, kills are a good indication of mafia. This is a fact, and indisputable. Go ahead and try.
Second of all, he never claimed who he killed, and yet blames me for claiming vigilante.
Third, a 50%ish chance someone is scum is GOOD ODDS. In fact, better odds than most people. Prove that wrong.
Fourth, he was using my reasoning as a defense for him killing, which is NOT a good reason. He then turns this around on me, because apparently if I wanted Glyph dead, that means it's alright for Irony to have no other reason to kill him.
Fifth, you were tricked. You just love tricks. You perform them on a daily basis, I'm sure.
Sixth, you OMGUSed me. Nice try trying to make it sound like I OMGUSed you.
Seventh, I don't swear.
Eighth, you are the one that has ignored every single argument except your own.
Ninth, do you even listen to yourself? Though, I suppose that's tough to do with your mouth full. Have to make money somehow, eh?
Tenth, you have yet to counter my arguments. Probably because you can't.

[Powder Miner]

...Replace.

Sorry, but at this point I've just given up on catching up.

[Powder Miner]

Remind me never to join more than one mafia at once, because it never ends well for me.

[Leafsnail]

Leafsnail as well, all through what I read you have been on "lurker hunt mode" but just acting friendly with other players and avoiding heat.  I don't like it.  Any players you really hate right now?  Like enough to slice their neck open?

I have been contributing less due to being busy recently.  I should be able to do more now.

Ottofar is not playing the game.  We can either lynch him and send out a message to lurkers or have him around as a liability forever while allowing other lurkers to go unphased.

In terms of actual scum-who-should-die, Think is probably my top choice now that I look back at him.  Reasoning below.

Also, maybe ninjas upgraded.

It seems unlikely though.  JG's death flavour and the fact he was chosen both scream ninja, while GG's death flavour and the fact he was chosen scream vig/ SK pretending to be a vig.  That said, we should be able to control Irony's kill regardless of his alignment.  Controlling the mafia kill would be pretty funny.

IronyOwl: You can either agree to follow the town consensus on who to kill at night or you will be lynched.  Otherwise you could keep performing scum kills normally.  Understand?  Kicking up a fuss with webadict will not allow you to slink away and not follow the town consensus.

Think:

Dariush: It was rhetorical. I was phrasing it to push him to commit to his position, as I felt it was a bluff. As he folded instantly, that plan fell apart.

Webadict. You're grandstanding scum who's trying to bring the vigilante issue to the forefront to bring greater control on them to prevent them from hitting scum.

This... initial vote makes very little sense.  You assume that Irony is town.  You assume that Irony's judgement is better than that of the entire town's (so much better that it's worth risking the possibility of him being scum and shooting the wrong people).  Tell me, what exactly did you think webadict's role was at the time you made this post?

Reasons I think Irony is town:
1) He hasn't flipped out once, unlike you.
2) He was instantly upfront about his decision, with logic I find sound.
3) You're claiming insane things about him (he has posted about things other than you, and repeatedly), and he's been simple about denying them.

Even if he's not town and just an SK, the fact that you're so hyper-focused on him suggests paranoia about what he can accomplish, most likely as a scum player.

Here you acknowledge the possibility of IronyOwl being an SK.  So do you think it'd be better for us if we let him run loose and perform whatever kills he wants to?

[Toaster]

Vote Count:

NativeForeigner:
Orangebottle:
Powder Miner: NativeForeigner, ToonyMan
Think0028:
Ottofar: Orangebottle, Leafsnail
Dariush:
ToonyMan:
webadict: Powder Miner, Dariush, Think0028, IronyOwl
IronyOwl: webadict
Leafsnail:

Not Voting:  Ottofar

Day 2 will last until Wednesday 2/8 at 11 PM EST.

Powder Miner has requested a replacement.