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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 768216 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #600 on: January 07, 2012, 03:22:18 pm »

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« Reply #601 on: January 07, 2012, 03:33:22 pm »

Yeah, and go without insurance. Plus, private insurance are there to make a profit, you need to pay all those CEO and billionaires. Risks is also higher for private insurers that for the State, because the pool is smaller. There is a reason why you Americans pays much more than any European country in health care and still have a large proportion of people that have no access to it.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #602 on: January 07, 2012, 05:07:26 pm »

A free market implies that the government has no hand in business. It's not really "free" when corperations keep getting tax breaks and bail outs.

Which is why what we have now does not qualify as a free market. Bail outs for corporations are NOT part of a free market. You make other points which are valid, but please make sure you know what is actually meant by the words you use.

I'm sorry if that sounds rude but I cannot think of a more polite way to phrase it.
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« Reply #603 on: January 07, 2012, 05:14:52 pm »

I think you should be arguing with ECrown, not Luke.
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« Reply #604 on: January 07, 2012, 08:03:35 pm »

I think you should be arguing with ECrown, not Luke.

AFAIK everything he said is correct, even if only technically.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #605 on: January 07, 2012, 08:17:43 pm »

Also, if you don't like those prices, then don't pay them. It's a free market for a reason.
So in the case of healthcare... die?
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« Reply #606 on: January 07, 2012, 08:27:21 pm »

Just because something is privatized, doesn't mean prices automatically go up.

No it doesn't.  But anyone who has even a cursory exposure to healthcare systems around the world knows that privatization leads to much higher prices.  So seeing as this was in the context of healthcare privatization does mean that prices go up.
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« Reply #607 on: January 08, 2012, 03:58:06 am »

So who watched the debate?

Who did you guys think won?

I thought Huntsmen did a great job, Romney sounds like a used car salesman.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #608 on: January 08, 2012, 04:16:20 am »

Aye, his comments about how Utah actually did well when he was governing (in response to Romney's criticism of his stance on the stimulus) seemed to shut Romney up.
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« Reply #609 on: January 08, 2012, 04:18:36 am »

I missed it, which is pretty bad since I'm supposed to be on top of this stuff, but my brain likes to cash out while listening to people talk over long periods.  I know the highlights will be all over the TV on Monday, and it'll get plenty of mention on the talk shows tomorrow.  I'll catch up and jot down some thoughts.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #610 on: January 08, 2012, 04:42:58 am »

Ron Paul pimpslapped Gingrich hard on his military deferrals, "I had a wife and two kids and i still served" when Newt was stumbling to answer about his military service.

Rick Perry says that if he were president he'd send troops back into Iraq. Yeah, pack it in, he's done.

EDIT: I will refrain from any actual "winning" comments because there wasn't a clear victor. Romney's still the guy to beat though.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #611 on: January 08, 2012, 01:08:59 pm »

Is it wrong of me to think of American Politics as comedy?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #612 on: January 08, 2012, 01:09:45 pm »

Tragicomedy would be a better comparison imo.
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« Reply #613 on: January 08, 2012, 01:25:12 pm »

He also either fails at science or thinks the Iranians have discovered light speed travel.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #614 on: January 08, 2012, 01:28:56 pm »

The funny part is that if he's right, the Iranian to control of the whole of Iraq some when between his first and second syllable.
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