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Marshall Burns

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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 10:40:14 am »

How about this: drain the lake into a massive cistern underground. Build the foundation of your tower, then pump all the water back into the lake.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 12:18:01 pm »

Nope. It would just refill from edges.

Use magma instead. Magma+Water=Obsidian, which can be dug out once done.
Unless it is too hard or impossible to get.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2011, 12:30:35 pm »

Wait, it's on the edge? I missed that part. I thought it was in the middle and fed by a river or something.

Still, you can drain it from the bottom and then dam it. That one guy that ranched sea serpents drained the ocean, so a lake shouldn't be too hard.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 12:53:46 pm »

Lakes that appeared connected to your map upon embark will refill from those edges.

...So nuclear coalbins, or
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Cave ins would be a lot easier than the above though.

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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2011, 01:04:18 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2011, 01:05:25 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?

Dig. Dig dig dig.

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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2011, 01:20:56 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?

Dig. Dig dig dig.

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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2011, 01:29:41 pm »

Yeah, see? Dig. That's what I said.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2011, 01:37:40 pm »

Just thought of something. With a little extra effort, you can build a giant cast above the water and cool the magma into a solid cube (or whatever you want it to be) before dropping it in, that way you get a shapely chunk of obsidian rather than a circular, haphazard mess.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2011, 01:39:57 pm »

Ooh, I like that one.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2011, 04:44:45 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?

Dig. Dig dig dig.

No, think about it: If you have a multiple-z-level obsidian cast acting as a dam in a lake, how can you remove it? If you remove the top first, you can't reach the bottom, and if you remove the bottom first, the water shoots through the hole and balances out. In any case, a dwarf making a hole into the dam will very quickly get washed away as soon as he's finished.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2011, 04:51:13 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?

Dig. Dig dig dig.

No, think about it: If you have a multiple-z-level obsidian cast acting as a dam in a lake, how can you remove it? If you remove the top first, you can't reach the bottom, and if you remove the bottom first, the water shoots through the hole and balances out. In any case, a dwarf making a hole into the dam will very quickly get washed away as soon as he's finished.
Aye, there's no way to completely remove the rock once you put it there. However, if you just remove the top layer, no one on the surface will be able to tell the difference.

Anyways, sculpting the obsidian before dropping it in is definately the best way to go.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2011, 05:19:01 pm »

But how can you remove the obsidian afterwards?

Dig. Dig dig dig.

No, think about it: If you have a multiple-z-level obsidian cast acting as a dam in a lake, how can you remove it? If you remove the top first, you can't reach the bottom, and if you remove the bottom first, the water shoots through the hole and balances out. In any case, a dwarf making a hole into the dam will very quickly get washed away as soon as he's finished.
Aye, there's no way to completely remove the rock once you put it there. However, if you just remove the top layer, no one on the surface will be able to tell the difference.

Anyways, sculpting the obsidian before dropping it in is definately the best way to go.

Well if you wanted to remove the obsidian, add more, make a chute, remove the lower area and wait for it all to drain out (assuming it has somewhere to drain to), then proceed to remove the rest, building/digging stairs and walls when needed. Building inside lakes is not the easiest of things to do :d

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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2011, 06:01:55 pm »

Well if you wanted to remove the obsidian, add more, make a chute, remove the lower area and wait for it all to drain out (assuming it has somewhere to drain to), then proceed to remove the rest, building/digging stairs and walls when needed. Building inside lakes is not the easiest of things to do :d
So to empty a lake, a drain is always the best thing to use.
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Re: How to dry a lake section?
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2011, 06:18:59 pm »

Well if you wanted to remove the obsidian, add more, make a chute, remove the lower area and wait for it all to drain out (assuming it has somewhere to drain to), then proceed to remove the rest, building/digging stairs and walls when needed. Building inside lakes is not the easiest of things to do :d
So to empty a lake, a drain is always the best thing to use.

Not if it fills from the map edge, plus you run the risk of FPS death
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