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KWN:WE Info Megapost

I'll update this as needed, since we can edit.


Role PMs:
Vector - The Webadict
IronyOwl - The Assassin
Jim Groovester - The Serial Killer
Urist Imiknorris - The Mafia-Ally
NUKE9.13 - The Martyr
NativeForeigner - A Townie
Toaster - The Brother
Orangebottle - The Jester
klingon13524 - A Townie
Think0028 - The Lyncher
Dariush - The Survivor
Urist_McArathos - The Watcher
Pandarsenic - The Cultist

Wincons:

Vector, the Webadict, wins if everyone else wins.  All other wincons contain "Kill the Webadict."  Green wincons have been fulfilled.

IronyOwl - Kill [Town] while alive.*
Jim Groovester - Kill everyone else.
Urist Imiknorris - Have the Mafia win (Outnumber the remainder of the Town)
NUKE9.13 - Get killed.
NativeForeigner - Kill all anti-Town factions.  Have at least one member from your team still alive.
Toaster - Have Jim Groovester win.
Orangebottle - Get lynched.
klingon13524 - Kill all anti-Town factions.  Have at least one member from your team still alive.
Think0028 - Lynch [Town] while alive.*
Dariush - Survive until the end of the game
Urist_McArathos - Reach day 5 alive.**
Pandarsenic - Kill all killing roles.  Have your team outnumber the rest of the Town.***

* Changes to Town if target dies.
** Not copied straight from role PM.
*** Can convert others.


Teams:  (Includes "counts as" roles)

Town:  Klingon, Native, Dariush
Mafia:  Urist I, Dariush
Cult:  Pandar, Dariush


Role powers:  (Almost) Everyone has a bullet.
Vector:  Can ask the mod a question during the day.  Dies if no one dies during the day.
IronyOwl:  Redirector.
Jim Groovester:  Limited use extra vote, kill, prime, and poison.
Urist Imiknorris:  Extra bullet.
NUKE9.13:  No bullet.  One-shot ability to make one player target everyone with that player's night action.
NativeForeigner:  One-shot grant revive.
Toaster:  Dies in place of Jim G.
Orangebottle:  Once voted, voter cannot change vote.
klingon13524:  Doctor.
Think0028:  Extra vote.
Dariush:  Has revive.  Can be given away.
Urist_McArathos:  Has a Robot.
Pandarsenic:  Cult leader.  If he dies, everyone on his team dies.



Potentially safe lynches:
Toaster - Will die in place of Jim, preventing Jim's own death.  Said ability may be useful in combo.
Jim - Only needs everyone else to die.  Has potentially useful abilities.
One of the townies.  There's a lyncher.
Lyncher and/or Assassin *after* they fulfill their wincons.


Potentially safe kills:
Nuke:  Needs to die to win.
Toaster:  See above.
Jim:  See above.
One of the townies:  See above, except assassin.

[IronyOwl]

klingon: Pretty sure you're lying. Give us your real role PM, we need it to figure this out.

[Toaster]

I doubt it, since he posted his role PM first.  He would have had to fake it single-handedly, especially the townie wincon that word-for-word matches what Native posted.  If anyone is lying, it's Native.

[Think0028]

Think0028

You have been voted...

A man cloaked in shadows hands you a noose. Webadict sure likes handing out ironic gifts.

Lyncher
Your WIN CONDITION must satisfy all of the following CONDITIONS:
 - Kill the Webadict
 - Lynch [Town] while alive

You have a BULLET.
During the Day, you may shoot the Webadict. If the Webadict has no bullets left, he will die. If he has any bullets remaining, you will die, but use up one of his bullets.
During the Night, you may shoot the Webadict. If the Webadict has too few bullets loaded into his turret, you kill him. Otherwise, you die.

You have a MEGAPHONE.
You have an extra vote. To use this extra vote, you must highlight two names in red consecutively. Voting the Webadict is useless.

You have a POTENTIAL CHANGE OF HEART.
You become a Townie if your target dies.

Sorry about the absence, after Christmas meant a lot of travelling. Unfortunately I have no good ideas about how to effect a win at this moment.

Vector, I see you redacted the meeting room. Mind telling us something about it, or will it have no material effect on victory?

[Urist Imiknorris]

Scumchat sanctity perhaps?

[Toaster]

It probably falls under PMing other players.


I think I got everything relevant in the Megathread up there.  If I missed anything, let me know and I'll add it.

Oh right- people ranked for expendabiltiy.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Vector: Question idea: Do converted cultists lose their previous wincons (not counting "kill the webadict" one)?

[Urist_McArathos]

Urist_McArathos

You have been watched...

A man cloaked in shadows hands you a card. As he steps back into the darkness, you know Webadict will always be watching you...

Watcher
Your WIN CONDITION must satisfy all of the following CONDITIONS:
 - Kill the Webadict
 - Reach Day 5

You have a BULLET.
During the Day, you may shoot the Webadict. If the Webadict has no bullets left, he will die. If he has any bullets remaining, you will die, but use up one of his bullets.
During the Night, you may shoot the Webadict. If the Webadict has too few bullets loaded into his turret, you kill him. Otherwise, you die.

You have a ROBOT.
If you die, you will live for one more Day and one more Night. You will not be able to vote or die, but you may shoot the Webadict. You may give this ability to another player. Roboting the Webadict, while stupid, is useless.

EDIT for the lulz: I have not yet PMed Webadict to clarify if I must be alive on D5 to satisfy my wincon.  Will do so now.

[Toaster]

If not, you're a lynch candidate.

[Jim Groovester]

Potential Question to ask: Did Orangebottle fulfill the 'get lynched' part of his win condition?

So, we need to kill people who don't need to be alive but can still win when dead, but also make sure everyone's win conditions don't become exclusive somehow. Notably, Urist Imiknorris' win conditions is apparently not exclusive with Pandarsenic's. Both the Mafia and Cult conditions say that they simply need to outnumber the town, which should be simple enough if both towns get converted.

So, a list of things that needs to happen is that:
1) Pandarsenic needs to convert klingon and NativeForeigner, (so that Cult and Mafia, and former Town can win)
2) klingon needs to get lynched, and NativeForeigner needs to be killed or vice versa, (so Lyncher and Assassin can win)
3) Dariush needs to be alive, (so Survivor can win)
4) NUKE9.13 needs to be killed, (so Martyr can win
5) I need to kill everybody (so Brother and Serial Killer can win)
6) The game needs to reach Day 5 (so Watcher can win)
7) Vector must die (so everybody can win)

Is this list complete?

I'm not sure all this can be accomplished while making sure that somebody dies each day. 6) Is going to be especially problematic if days don't start advancing by integers.

[Toaster]

Nuke can be shot in the day (or primed by Jim the night he does so) once he uses his action to cover one requirement.  Clearly, we need to decide who he needs to action.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I think we need to bring it down to just NUKE, Dariush and Native, then tech Native.

[Pandarsenic]

I'm not sure whom I can or cannot convert. PM was very vague.

[Toaster]

I think we need to bring it down to just NUKE, Dariush and Native, then tech Native.

How does Nuke die, or the cult/mafia win?

I'm not sure whom I can or cannot convert. PM was very vague.

In TP3, cult couldn't convert mafioso, SK, or watcher.

[Vector]

Also, I'm not sure if there's something we need to do to somehow complete Orangebottle's lynching.