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[Grungy Dwarf]

Hello everyone.

I've picked up DF again after some time and I'm hooked again, but I seem to have a little problem. I've generated a new world and looked around for a while to find a perfect spot to start a new fortress. When I checked the neighbours screen it showed all available races (humans, dwarves, elves and goblins), but as soon as I embarked and checked the 'Civilizations' menu and the dwarves were the only one on the list. What am I doing wrong, why is the embark screen lying to me? I don't really feel like playing without gobbos, I'd like to test my defenses against their sieges. There's just no !fun! without them .

[Sphalerite]

Civilizations don't show up on the "Civilizations" menu until a member of that civilization has visited your map.  So you won't see the goblin civilizations show up there until one of them arrives in person.

[Grungy Dwarf]

So I have nothing to worry about and they'll show up eventually? Thank you for clearing that up for me .

[khearn]

Civilizations don't show up on the "Civilizations" menu until a member of that civilization has visited your map.  So you won't see the goblin civilizations show up there until one of them arrives in person.

Interesting... I wonder if an ambush enters your map but you haven't spotted it yet, does the goblin civ show up in the civs screen?

[Sphalerite]

Civilizations don't show up on the "Civilizations" menu until a member of that civilization has visited your map.  So you won't see the goblin civilizations show up there until one of them arrives in person.

Interesting... I wonder if an ambush enters your map but you haven't spotted it yet, does the goblin civ show up in the civs screen?

It does.  It's not uncommon to see civilizations listed on the civ list when you've never actually seen them, when one of their members snuck onto the screen sneakily and then left without being spotted.