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[lojban]

So i know that wells can be used to make meeting areas (but I don't know how!) But that is not the problem.
I have not been able to find a definitive answer on whether or not wells can actually transport water. Seriously.
Can i make a water-shaft with a windmill and a well? Do dwarves have to carry it up one bucket at a time?
Can wells not actually transport liquids?

And if not, is there a better way to transport liquid up z-levels that with many, many, pumps and a whole bunch of mishaps with dwarves getting stuck and almost* sucked up through a pump? (it's way worse with lava!)

*they can't, as far as i know, but they would if they could.

[tommy521]

Wells put water in a bucket. The water in a bucket can be used to give dwarves water, fill water skins and fill a pit/pond designation. They do not transport physical water.

[Loud Whispers]

If you want to draw water through wells, then yes, dwarves will be the only ones who can, one bucket at a time. They take 1~ water with one bucket, but this water is only ever put down in a pond, if it falls it simply falls as a pile of stagnant water.


If you're too bored to wait for that though, you can always pressurize the water beneath the well using a pump, river or whatever, and I'm sure you'll agree that the water most definitely transports through the well ;P

[lojban]

wait...
pressurize?

THIS GAME ROCKS!

can i make a geyser?
or a lava - gun for pesky seiges?

...

how do i pressurize? pump water / lava into an area with only one exit - up?
I have got to try this. thanks!

[Loud Whispers]

I think you'll have !FUN! with this

[Putnam]

This is a good example of what can be done with it.

[thegoatgod_pan]

Oh god I think this post made me finally realize how pressure could be used for insanity.  I think you could weaponize wells.

[Poindexterity]

wait...
pressurize?

THIS GAME ROCKS!

can i make a geyser?
or a lava - gun for pesky seiges?

...

how do i pressurize? pump water / lava into an area with only one exit - up?
I have got to try this. thanks!

i LOVE posts like this.
it means we've got another one.

for LIFE.

[acetech09]

I guess you can pump water up using a well by making a pond zone a step away from the well, a dwarf will just go back and forth - granted the higher up it is the longer it will take, but some experimentation could be used.

[monk12]

This is a good example of what can be done with it.

Ah, beat me to it. A good thread, that was.

[NonconsensualSurgery]

I guess you can pump water up using a well by making a pond zone a step away from the well, a dwarf will just go back and forth - granted the higher up it is the longer it will take, but some experimentation could be used.

Caveat: one bucket of water equals 1/7 depth water on one tile. Dwarves fill rather slowly. Water evaporates below 4/7. All but the tiniest cisterns will never fill from bucket power alone.

I tried it a few times and never once successfully filled a reservoir this way. Then, I figured out that DF ropes are really long and can draw up through a 100 z-level shaft from a desalination plant in the caverns straight to your hospital, negating the need for pump stacks or bucket brigades almost entirely.

[Alastar]

Oh god I think this post made me finally realize how pressure could be used for insanity.  I think you could weaponize wells.

I weaponise water fixtures out of principle. Water source/reservoir a couple of levels above my fortress, and multiple pressure valves (door blocking orthogonal flow) for fine-grained control.

[Mechanoid]

Water evaporates below 4/7. All but the tiniest cisterns will never fill from bucket power alone.

[Liquids like water and lava] only evaporate on 1/7, not 4/7. You can have a single 2/7 pool and it will remain as it is forever.

[eggrock]

Water evaporates below 4/7. All but the tiniest cisterns will never fill from bucket power alone.

[Liquids like water and lava] only evaporate on 1/7, not 4/7. You can have a single 2/7 pool and it will remain as it is forever.

OT-ish, and possibly FUD: I read somewhere that 2/7 might actually be a bit lower than 2/7 and could in some cases evaporate.

[edit] The wiki is pretty explicit: "Simply having 2/7 standing water is enough to prevent evaporation."

[monk12]

Water evaporates below 4/7. All but the tiniest cisterns will never fill from bucket power alone.

[Liquids like water and lava] only evaporate on 1/7, not 4/7. You can have a single 2/7 pool and it will remain as it is forever.

OT-ish, and possibly FUD: I read somewhere that 2/7 might actually be a bit lower than 2/7 and could in some cases evaporate.

[edit] The wiki is pretty explicit: "Simply having 2/7 standing water is enough to prevent evaporation."

The 2/7 warning is likely for larger cisterns- if you don't have it 2/7 across the entire cistern, then the water will "slosh," and the spots of 1/7 can evaporate.

Though once you have it at/near 2/7 full, it shouldn't be too hard to fill it the rest of the way- there isn't much reason to leave water storage half-full, unless you're doing something very weird and specific with fluid mechanics.