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Flattermann

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Siege sieze
« on: November 21, 2011, 07:27:41 pm »

 I wanna know if there are any modifiers for the seize of the sieges you get. Today I made a new fortress and just had the first two sieges, while the first was just a bow gobbo and his 8 friends but the second one not much later had a platoon of melees and four angry Trolls.I cant really remember doing anything significant in between short of some work on the Bastion (which was in  fain I might add since they found a hidden entrance to an mine shaft >.<)

Are there any things known to enlarge sieges? Im tempted to repeat this some more  :)
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Re: Siege sieze
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 07:33:06 pm »

It seems like the first siege rarely ever(if at all)consists of more than a single squad, after that I have no idea what determines a siege's size. I assume it's related to fortress wealth, though.

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Re: Siege sieze
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 09:17:20 pm »

well i have some info that can help.

wealth will make more goblins attack

for every head you wack of 1.5 will show up. the longer you hold, and the more sieges you kill, more goblins will show
(this is all i can say on how to make goblins attack)

now heres how you make sieges happen

kobolds: let the robb you cleen and they will get bolder

elfs: give them wood shiz and plant shiz they willget PIZZED OFF (but there armor is made of butter

humans: kill one of there caravans and they will come back with alot more armor and swords

goblins: just sit back and do nothing
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 01:53:15 pm »

ah thx for the info I kinda suspected wealth would factor in but the 1.5 multiplier for gobbos is news to me (immediately the last cage traps are dissembled :D ). Unfortunately I lost my ever angry militia commander last siege so my plans to make the wrath of the mountainhome incarnate will have to wait till another suitable candidate shows up but I guess there is no harm in raising the siege seize till then.

Another question that came to mind has it any effect if you kill the notables of a civilisation (General/King etc.) ? 
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 03:17:12 pm »

I assume you mean size, but exporting resources and trade goods whilst letting goblins leave your map to report your fortress wealth are LOVELY ways to get large sieges. Plus, killing diplomats and trade caravans of other races means you could end up with lotsa !FUN! c:

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2011, 07:03:04 pm »

ah thx for the info I kinda suspected wealth would factor in but the 1.5 multiplier for gobbos is news to me (immediately the last cage traps are dissembled :D ).

Another question that came to mind has it any effect if you kill the notables of a civilisation (General/King etc.) ?
The reason it is news to you is because it doesn't exist. The only reason that fort's get larger sieges later on is just a combination of wealth increase and a slow increase over time. Whether or not you actually kill the invaders has no effect upon the numbers.

As for killing the notables, once a king/general is slain their civilization will no longer have access to any creatures tamed in world gen by that notable, which in most cases means no more sieges riding on unicorns/jabberers/giant eagles.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 09:31:48 pm »

ah thx for the info I kinda suspected wealth would factor in but the 1.5 multiplier for gobbos is news to me (immediately the last cage traps are dissembled :D ).

Another question that came to mind has it any effect if you kill the notables of a civilisation (General/King etc.) ?
The reason it is news to you is because it doesn't exist. The only reason that fort's get larger sieges later on is just a combination of wealth increase and a slow increase over time. Whether or not you actually kill the invaders has no effect upon the numbers.

As for killing the notables, once a king/general is slain their civilization will no longer have access to any creatures tamed in world gen by that notable, which in most cases means no more sieges riding on unicorns/jabberers/giant eagles.

i was not being litteral. there is no multiplier. im just saying that

THERE ARE ALWAYS MORE!
no matter how many you kill there will always be more...           always
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 09:14:38 am »

ah thx for the info I kinda suspected wealth would factor in but the 1.5 multiplier for gobbos is news to me (immediately the last cage traps are dissembled :D ).

Another question that came to mind has it any effect if you kill the notables of a civilisation (General/King etc.) ?
The reason it is news to you is because it doesn't exist. The only reason that fort's get larger sieges later on is just a combination of wealth increase and a slow increase over time. Whether or not you actually kill the invaders has no effect upon the numbers.

As for killing the notables, once a king/general is slain their civilization will no longer have access to any creatures tamed in world gen by that notable, which in most cases means no more sieges riding on unicorns/jabberers/giant eagles.

i was not being litteral. there is no multiplier. im just saying that

THERE ARE ALWAYS MORE!
no matter how many you kill there will always be more...           always

My theory on goblins is that they reproduce like rabbits and, being immune to hunger or thirst or old age, do so without natural limits.

It gets very crowded in the goblin fortresses. They have an unlimited supply of metals from their thriving bold recycling industry, so they outfit surplus members of the population with basic weapons and send them on sieges that hardly ever come back solely to keep the crowding down. They'd just toss their idiots and surplus goblins into lava themselves if they had the heart.

Elves have a similar overpopulation problem because they're immortal, but have solved the problem of living forever with dendrophilia, homosexuality and cannibalism.
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Re: Siege sieze
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 11:43:51 am »

i was not being litteral. there is no multiplier.
The 1.5 figure isn't high enough to be obviously an exaggeration, and is precise enough to be read as a statement about the game mechanics. It's reasonable enough for someone to take the comment at its face value.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 12:29:54 pm »

For example, I find I take 2.7 statements in each thread at face value.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 01:21:36 pm »

For example, I find I take 2.7 statements in each thread at face value.

Every quote below my OP is... ^