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turgidtoupee

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Breeding animals
« on: November 19, 2011, 11:52:15 am »

Just a little help for someone used to growing rather than grazing; how does animal breeding work? If I was to have one male, would I be able to have as many females as I wanted and they'd still all breed?
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2011, 11:54:04 am »

"If I was to have one male, would I be able to have as many females as I wanted and they'd still all breed?" yes (adult male)
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2011, 11:56:24 am »

"If I was to have one male, would I be able to have as many females as I wanted and they'd still all breed?" yes (adult male)

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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 12:03:16 pm »

it has been found (not by me but has been claimed to be found) that selective breeding works too. So sending skinny, weak dogs to the butcher is moraly sound
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2011, 12:05:08 pm »

it has been found (not by me but has been claimed to be found) that selective breeding works too. So sending skinny, weak dogs to the butcher is moraly sound

I can confirm. Make sure your male is fat and gigantic, and your animals will give you plenty of food when butchered.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 12:07:20 pm »

the question was if those traits are inherited :p
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 12:34:09 pm »

They are
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 06:21:31 pm »

I didn't think to check their descriptions, but I had a fort (about three or four back) where I was attempting to get a herd of horses going.  I had two males and one female.  I kept butchering a stallion every spring/early summer when it reached adulthood for six years because the mare kept foaling males and not more females and I didn't want six stallions to one mare.  I never did get another mare before the fort ended (I goofed and flooded a bunch of stuff, effectively killing the fort).

I'm working on a herd of goats in my current fort.  I've got two or three nanny's and at least one billy goat (not to mention the three baby goats).  I'll have to check their descriptions.  You know ... for !!science!!. :)
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 08:42:13 pm »

I once brought two giant toads (male and female) and two giant olms (male and female) on embark hoping they would breed. I locked them in their own rooms full of nest boxes, but never in the duration of seven years did they produce live offspring or claim a nest box. Are they unbreedable? I looked in the raws, and they don't have a child stage. I thought of putting the croc's child stage and egg laying specifications in there or something, but haven't tried. Though giving cave crocs [TRAINABLE] turned out ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, with their massive size, fast growth rate, and litters of 30-40 crocs.
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 08:53:56 pm »

I once brought two giant toads (male and female) and two giant olms (male and female) on embark hoping they would breed. I locked them in their own rooms full of nest boxes, but never in the duration of seven years did they produce live offspring or claim a nest box. Are they unbreedable? I looked in the raws, and they don't have a child stage. I thought of putting the croc's child stage and egg laying specifications in there or something, but haven't tried. Though giving cave crocs [TRAINABLE] turned out ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, with their massive size, fast growth rate, and litters of 30-40 crocs.

In the unmodded game, only creatures with the [PET] tag will breed.  Creatures with [PET_EXOTIC], and creatures with neither [PET] or [PET_EXOTIC] won't breed, even if they're tame.  Also, creatures without the CHILD: tag won't breed.
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 09:31:37 pm »

I once brought two giant toads (male and female) and two giant olms (male and female) on embark hoping they would breed. I locked them in their own rooms full of nest boxes, but never in the duration of seven years did they produce live offspring or claim a nest box. Are they unbreedable? I looked in the raws, and they don't have a child stage. I thought of putting the croc's child stage and egg laying specifications in there or something, but haven't tried. Though giving cave crocs [TRAINABLE] turned out ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, with their massive size, fast growth rate, and litters of 30-40 crocs.

In the unmodded game, only creatures with the [PET] tag will breed.  Creatures with [PET_EXOTIC], and creatures with neither [PET] or [PET_EXOTIC] won't breed, even if they're tame.  Also, creatures without the CHILD: tag won't breed.

Good to know. thx. Some time I'll try to get a child and pet tag for some of my favorite creatures. Though it seems like a giant toad should only breed in water, though I have a feeling that can't be done just in the raws. Of course its a toad, and not a frog. but anyway.

When I'm on a tropical major river map, I get a lot of hippo birth messages, even though they are wild. Do all critters do that? I've never gotten a camel birth message, or god forbid a badger birth message. and are there any sentients that will do that?
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 09:49:56 pm »

I once brought two giant toads (male and female) and two giant olms (male and female) on embark hoping they would breed. I locked them in their own rooms full of nest boxes, but never in the duration of seven years did they produce live offspring or claim a nest box. Are they unbreedable? I looked in the raws, and they don't have a child stage. I thought of putting the croc's child stage and egg laying specifications in there or something, but haven't tried. Though giving cave crocs [TRAINABLE] turned out ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, with their massive size, fast growth rate, and litters of 30-40 crocs.

In the unmodded game, only creatures with the [PET] tag will breed.  Creatures with [PET_EXOTIC], and creatures with neither [PET] or [PET_EXOTIC] won't breed, even if they're tame.  Also, creatures without the CHILD: tag won't breed.

So, is the less confusing description "To breed they must have both [PET] and [CHILD], no exceptions"?
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Re: Breeding animals
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 10:08:35 pm »

When I'm on a tropical major river map, I get a lot of hippo birth messages, even though they are wild. Do all critters do that? I've never gotten a camel birth message, or god forbid a badger birth message. and are there any sentients that will do that?

You get the hippo birth messages because hippos are permanent residents.  They stick around on the map long enough to get pregnant and give birth.  Wild camels wander on and off the map and don't hang around long enough to give birth, unless you catch some of them and put them in a sealed room somewhere.

Sentients usually only breed if they're part of your fortress.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2011, 08:51:26 am »

Breed turkeys. Build a seprate next box room for each female, keep one (large) male alive in his own room, keep one (large) female in a 1x1 room, set the door as locked, unlock it everytime a clutch of eggs hatch and put the females in there own room's, and the males in a pasture somewhere untill you butcher them (they may attack each other).

After a few generations you will have more eggs than you know what to do with, and bone and leather from the turkeys, as well as meat. Ocasionally you may feel a bit of guilt stuffing animals into tiny rooms in the dark till they die of old age, but it's better that starving dwarfs.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 10:13:04 am »

I once brought two giant toads (male and female) and two giant olms (male and female) on embark hoping they would breed. I locked them in their own rooms full of nest boxes, but never in the duration of seven years did they produce live offspring or claim a nest box. Are they unbreedable? I looked in the raws, and they don't have a child stage. I thought of putting the croc's child stage and egg laying specifications in there or something, but haven't tried. Though giving cave crocs [TRAINABLE] turned out ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, with their massive size, fast growth rate, and litters of 30-40 crocs.

In the unmodded game, only creatures with the [PET] tag will breed.  Creatures with [PET_EXOTIC], and creatures with neither [PET] or [PET_EXOTIC] won't breed, even if they're tame.  Also, creatures without the CHILD: tag won't breed.

Good to know. thx. Some time I'll try to get a child and pet tag for some of my favorite creatures. Though it seems like a giant toad should only breed in water, though I have a feeling that can't be done just in the raws. Of course its a toad, and not a frog. but anyway.

When I'm on a tropical major river map, I get a lot of hippo birth messages, even though they are wild. Do all critters do that? I've never gotten a camel birth message, or god forbid a badger birth message. and are there any sentients that will do that?

I've seen wild giant badgers, honey badgers, and camels all birth babies.  Basically need to be contained and kept on the map for an extended period of time for that to happen.
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