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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2011, 01:37:20 pm »

Fact: Dehydration comes from not having a sufficient amount of water in your body.

Fact: Drinking water increases the amount of water in your body.

Therefore, water can combat dehydration.

Therefore this ruling is stupid.
The wording is "prevent," not "combat."

Semantics are the core issue here. Their JOB is to prevent advertisers from manipulating wording to say something untrue. It's true that this case is quite trivial, but they can't overlook it just for that.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2011, 01:40:30 pm »

I think the idea is that drinking water doesn't (permanently) "lower your chances" of being dehydrated, which is how I often see "prevent" being used. Such as brushing your teeth to prevent gum disease.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2011, 01:53:52 pm »

If I had desk insurance, I'd be rich.

Don't you just LOVE the governments these days?

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2011, 02:04:09 pm »

This seems equally split between opportunistic journalism, and government stupidity. Everything read normal up until the point where the EU decided this needed to be a law, not just an outcome of a particular claims hearing. That's when they made themselves vulnerable to their critics, and at the worst possible time too.

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Seriously though, that's on line 5 of the article. Would you like some news with your bias?
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2011, 02:09:59 pm »

For those arguing liquids other than water can prevent/cure/combat/whatever dehydration, you are pretty much 100% wrong. Water is, in fact, the only liquid with that property.

Well, okay, Deuterium Oxide works too, but only to a certain extent. And one could argue that is still water.

As far as the ruling - obviously, it depends on whether you are talking about the condition or the process. Drinking water obviously prevents (or helps to prevent) the condition (for a time), I would think...
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2011, 02:18:26 pm »

Yeah, I dunno about that. On the one hand, when government decides something, they like to announce it big and loud so they don't have to tell everyone again. That makes sense to me. I just wonder who the commissioner was that was like "Well, we've made the ruling, let's make it official! Read that back to me again!......Yes, perfect. No fallout could possibly come from saying this. We'll set a new standard in bottled water advertising claims!"

These days it seems like the wrong parts of governments are working way too hard, when the parts we care about aren't working hard enough.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2011, 02:44:27 pm »

Well it's a good thing that the majority of my fluid intake is limited to massive amounts of coffee, otherwise I might actually have to care.

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2011, 03:02:01 pm »

seriously? Last I checked, dehydration wasn't a disease, but just the state of having inadequate WATER in your body and generally being THIRSTY.

Of course consuming water will hydrate you, the word hydrate comes from a root word meaning WATER.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2011, 03:19:11 pm »

The argument is in semantics. Not walking over train tracks EVER prevents you getting hit by a train EVER. Drinking one bottle of water will not prevent you needing to drink one again later. The word "prevent" does refer to the ability to keep an event from happening or continuing.

Seeing as there are very many different languages within Europe, this could be a problem relating to the lack of a defenite translation of "prevents" between one or more languages - after all synonyms of the word are things like "stops", "ends" or "halts".

That, or water isnt actually the only thing you can drink to end up with a net positive effect on hydration levels, so the courst decision could be made on the right of water companies to use that as a selling point. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the Telegraph is a notoriously eurosceptic conservative paper, so could be telling thier own version of the truth.

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2011, 03:24:19 pm »

Anything you drink that hydrates you has water in it.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2011, 03:26:05 pm »

Anything you drink that hydrates you has water in it.
Anything you eat, too :P
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2011, 03:30:29 pm »

Now see I got the impression that the scientists think a whole damn bunch of stuff can prevent dehydration.

Thus water isn't unique.



It's like saying, this food cures hunger.

It's not fucking unique!

You wanna make a claim? It actually has to mean shit. or that is the vibe I'm getting from you guyses halfhearted repetition of the scientists.

You know what's unique? gatorade is uniquely formulated to add the correct salts to the body, sugar for energy, and water to combat dehydration.

You know what's unique? Cereal like cheerios has folic acid that is good for your heart.
considering it's been removed from almost all bread products.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2011, 03:38:54 pm »

Our evolutionary courses are not going to change to the point that what we have lived off for eons (food that is not genetically modified) will change anytime soon.

Sure, I can live off of company grown and genetically modified black berries, but i can also just go pick some domesticted black berries out of my cow field.

Speaking of which I do not need to eat hormone ridden cow meat either, my landlord has too many cows to handle, and if I felt like it I could get one of the smaller ones butchered and store it in the big freezer in my basement.


Also water is unique, it is the MOST effective substance at fighting dehydration, considering it is the main ingredient FOR being hydrated, us being mostly water and all.
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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2011, 03:41:15 pm »

I just think the whole thing is pointless, true or not.

They act like the sole reason bottled water sells is because it claims to prevent dehydration. Like after this law is put in place people will be saying, "hmm, I'm pretty thirsty, I think I'll go pick up some bottled water. Wait, what's this? This bottle of water will not prevent my dehydration!? FUCK THAT SHIT!".

the entire thing seems pretty trivial to me. Then again, I go months without drinking just plain water.

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Re: Law: water can not prevent dehydration
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2011, 03:42:20 pm »

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Then again, I go months without drinking just plain water.

thats not healthy dude. i had a cup of water like an hour and a half ago
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