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[SalmonGod]

Actually On Topic

Thanks.  That was fantastic.

I've been out for a couple days.  Just caught back up.

Income inequality is a concept I understand and which the solutions to are well known.

Please share?...

[Osmosis Jones]

Time for some tasty linkage;

The Oakland Police Officer's Association is kinda pissed with the mayor right now.

The TruMark credit union is offering a $50 gift card if you open an account with them before november 5th. Watch the cycling banner ad, you'll know it when you see it

This might already have been linked, but the Tennessee protestors are now protected by a restraining order against the state

Occupy Richmond has been cleared out too.


Source for the linkage.

[Tellemurius]

Denver got some problems right now, we got a division right now whether to fight back the current police crackdown with violence or let them be dragged away.

[SirAaronIII]

Let them be dragged away. If you fight back, the whole movement looks bad ("oh aren't they the ones that had that little fight with the cops? they're OBVIOUSLY evil and wrong!") but if you let them be dragged away, they get dragged away (which sucks) at the expense of the image of the police/city ("they arrested some of those poor protesters! we should support the little guy!").

Not everyone will think like this, but it's still probably best to avoid confrontations.

[Tellemurius]

Let them be dragged away. If you fight back, the whole movement looks bad ("oh aren't they the ones that had that little fight with the cops? they're OBVIOUSLY evil and wrong!") but if you let them be dragged away, they get dragged away (which sucks) at the expense of the image of the police/city ("they arrested some of those poor protesters! we should support the little guy!").

Not everyone will think like this, but it's still probably best to avoid confrontations.

Too late, last week cops rolled in due to couple of tards knocking a cop off his motorcycle, somehow it got blown out of proportion and riot gear was equipped.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/denver-police-use-force-against-occupy-protesters-after-marchers-advance-on-capitol/2011/10/29/gIQAtPwcTM_story.html


riot gear equipment:
DP is really not to be fucked. converted ARs to fire pepper shots, modern riot armor to the point the cops can literally take a whack from a lawn chair and can still be standing, instead of police batons they have more of a shortstaff with a wider reach and emphasis for close-range with two hands, and there is a suit for every cop everyone is trained for riot duty.

[Lagslayer]

Important information regarding the Occupy Richmond event

The Oakland Police Officer's Association is kinda pissed with the mayor right now.

Seems like the police just want consistency more than anything right now. I don't blame them.

Let them be dragged away. If you fight back, the whole movement looks bad ("oh aren't they the ones that had that little fight with the cops? they're OBVIOUSLY evil and wrong!") but if you let them be dragged away, they get dragged away (which sucks) at the expense of the image of the police/city ("they arrested some of those poor protesters! we should support the little guy!").

Not everyone will think like this, but it's still probably best to avoid confrontations.

There was no problem with the protest until they started breaking the tent law, and some of the protesters got uppity about it. If this is more widely known, then then the Occupy Denver group as a whole might break even if the rest remain peaceful, but violence would make them look like thugs. The police were just doing their job.

[Tellemurius]

Well the tent law is more targeted to the vagrancy of Denver not the protesters. For the protester parts they moved into federal areas or lay out a tarp and suffer (that requires some heavy balls considering we got a blizzard right now)

[SalmonGod]

riot gear equipment:
DP is really not to be fucked. converted ARs to fire pepper shots, modern riot armor to the point the cops can literally take a whack from a lawn chair and can still be standing, instead of police batons they have more of a shortstaff with a wider reach and emphasis for close-range with two hands, and there is a suit for every cop everyone is trained for riot duty.

I wonder how many times I'm going to have reason to link this in this thread

The police were just doing their job.

Am I the only one who gets tired of that line being used as if it's a valid justification for anything?  Not that I don't understand.  They have families to feed and such.  But then the only police getting criticism are the ones acting more malicious then their job necessitates.  If they are in fact being ordered to act with a sort of meanness not required by law, then they are in fact not doing their jobs.  Their job is to protect and serve and uphold the law, not to do the exact opposite whenever they're told.

[Tellemurius]

Well DP is efficient, they roll into the crowd surround their target and walk right out with person/s gun and stick aiming at the pissed off counterparts. Haven't heard any of them going ballistic.

I think i have one of those shirts somewhere

[Truean]

Time for some tasty linkage;

The Oakland Police Officer's Association is kinda pissed with the mayor right now.

Dear Oakland Police Officers

I represent numerous criminal defendants in another jurisdiction against police abuses. I do believe you when you say you are confused. You've categorically denied using "non-lethal" bullets against peaceful protesters, but there is very clearly a military veteran suffering brain damage from exactly such a weapon by your officers. Your mayor is attempting to protect you from massive legal liability, an escalation in protesting caused by your excessive force, and possible job loss for cause You owe her an apology and thank you note. I do not practice law in your jurisdiction; if I did I would love to peruse many actionable and even winnable claims based on these facts.

We need real officers NOW who will step up and properly do their jobs without violating the constitution – not send mixed messages. Thank you for listening.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/occupy-oakland-did-police-use-flashbangs-and-rubber-bullets-on-protesters/2011/10/26/gIQAL4pOJM_blog.html

Slowly replace and fire each and every single officer who does not disavow this statement with officers from other cities/new recruits. That's one of the many things I'd do in the mayor's position.

[ECrownofFire]

I thought this was amusing and semi-relevant.

Spoiler: "Scumbag Socialist" (click to show/hide)

If you look, you can see somebody put a "Scumbag Steve" hat onto him.

[Rose]

My boss is convinced that occupy wall-street has a major financial backing.

* Japa sighs.

[mainiac]

What, isn't it expensive to go campaing?  You mean poor people don't spend a lot of money doing that?

[atomicwinter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qdLa6c3hN1w

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aEDWs-KNf-0

Thought I should throw these up there. I agree with their right to protest, but none of them understand economics, even thou what this is guy is saying is very basic.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Handpicked staged encounters from a youtube channel called wideawake123 starring a CEO and uses words like "sheep" to describe the OWS protesters?

Okay.

Why not come out and throw the word "sheeple" around anyhow? At least then I know to just laugh.