Powder Miner, if you're tired of backing off, why did you do it in the first place?
Your case isn't very deep. Is his lack of scumhunting the only reason you're after him?
IronyOwl, you still haven't cast a vote yet.
Oh, goody, lynching the IC.
I don't like how you're throwing the IC card around. One one hand, you're saying that you should not be placed above suspicion because you're an IC. However, there are posts like this where you make out as if you should get special treatment for it. Your arguments don't consist of 'I'm town, you shouldn't lych me', they consist of 'I'm an IC, you shouldn't lynch me'.
If I thought your arguments were good I wouldn't be complaining about them.
For example, did I give you shit when you said I wasn't scumhunting? No, because I could quite clearly see how you could think that, and to a certain extent, it was true.
Did I give you shit when you started asking me why I was pleased with Mindmaker? Yes, because that's an argument that will get you absolutely nowhere and has no relevance to whether I am town or scum.
I am a very powerful player in the game, and if you think I'm just going to flop over and let you lynch me just to be a nice guy, well, I don't know why you thought that, because that would be ridiculous. If you want to see me lynched, you're going to have to work harder. A lot harder than you are right now, because I will fight you every inch of the way, and I will not tone down any hostility and I will destroy all of your arguments as you struggle to present them. I will not hold back.
I hope you (and everybody else) will take a lesson away from this: Don't ever give up. Giving up is generally regarded as a scum tell (to be more accurate, it
was generally regarded as a scum tell), but it's still always a good idea to fight and challenge as much as possible on the way down. If this makes your life difficult, sorry, but maybe one day you'll get to be in the same situation and come to appreciate my position here. If you do it well enough, you might even reverse opinions.
ed boy, I'll have your case too. I have a feeling it's less artificial and less contrived because you're not going about it like you know everything there is to know about playing the game already. Still, I would know what it is and why my answers are apparently unsatisfactory.
It feels to me like you're using your IC position to undermine lines of suspicion and questioning against you. When people do get answers out of you, they are often brief and can be inconsistent. You don't seem to be adding anything with your posts.
Whenever someone asks you a question, you spend as much time griping about being asked the question as you do answering it. You seem to consider being questioned and suspected a terrible thing, and you're determined to make things and difficult as possible for the questioner. I can't see a town player wanting to be so difficult to read, but I can see a scum player wanting that.
You should be taking notes.
If you ask me questions I think are unreasonable, I will make your life difficult.
I will point out, however, that I did spend a lot of time answering all of your questions and explaining why I thought you shouldn't be asking them. However, once you got your answer, you didn't stop asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I answered the question to the best of my ability. Just because it wasn't the answer you wanted doesn't mean I'm going to change my answer if you ask again.
I've been making myself available to be read: I answered all your questions. Maybe if you're not getting any good reads, the fault lies with the questions? Or maybe you? At some point, if you're not getting anywhere, you're going to have to give up a line of questioning instead of accusing the person who's answering them of being scum.
ICs: Metagaming like I just did kinda makes me feel dirty. Is there a way to fix that?
Don't use meta tells?
If you want to use a meta argument, you need to know that player's meta very, very well. Otherwise, you're just making stuff up, which is about as effective a scumhunting tactic as you might expect. Even if you do a know a players' meta very well, you still have to make the judgment of whether what you're accusing that player of is something he does as scum, or something he always does as town or scum, which is a difficult judgment players often get wrong due to foggy and selective memory (which is what most people use as the basis for what they consider a player's meta to be).
Meta arguments used to be more in style but they've fallen out of favor recently. I know I've actively discouraged their use in games, because I don't think they're effective. I usually demand evidence for the meta argument, which would just be a list of games, but nobody really bothers with it once I do that. It also does not punish bad play, because if somebody does something scummy but it fits 'their meta' then they get away with it. (Ideally, you want to make the scum do as much work as possible in order to avoid detection. If the standard is brutally effective scumhunting, then it's very difficult for the scum to fit in, which likewise makes them easier to find. A little mafia theory according to Jim Groovester for you.)
Also, using meta tells against new or unskilled players very rarely pays off. Usually they're just being themselves, and then they get mislynched.