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[Rex_Nex]

Until you move on to mods, then in D&T the best ships are built with less then 10 ducats and in a couple weeks XD

[Micro102]

Centralization always has a bad effect when you move the slider, but that's because there are no downsides (except that tiny bit of extra war exhaustion limit,which is useless).

Also, anyone ever figure out why stacks of ships can randomly start a fight with low morale? Not due to upkeep sliders or attrition. Already confirmed it's not those. I feel it has something to do with the number of ships, but I tested multiple numbers and I can't find a pattern.


In my recent game, I'm playing as Byzantium. I kept dieing and dieing while trying to pummel the ottomans away from my land. Restarted until I ended up in an alliance with Hungary, who took care of a large portion of the ottomans for me. After that It was full defensive, taking forts while mine stood firm, and attacking low morale armies. Got almost all my core provinces back (the others stopping being core) and fought back the massive golden horde blob, taking control of all the surrounding coastal provinces and their CoT. Now, off to take Venice as the strongest country in the world.

I can't post a screen shot cause I suck at it, so here's a little overview of my world.

- England still hasn't taken over Scotland or colonized anything, but have taken over Norway and other miscellaneous coastal areas all over Europe

- Golden Horde consumed nearly all of what once was Novgorod, Muscovy, and other Russian type countries, and who knows how much to the east.

- France is squashed.

- Castille inherited Lithuania, then imploded.

- Bulgaria is bigger then Austria and Bohemia.

We are about 80 years in.

[Rex_Nex]

Because both armies (or in this case navies) don't have the same moral at the start of the battle, you won't both start with a full morale bar. If you have 1/2 the max morale that the other guy has, you'll start with 1/2 the morale bar rather then losing your morale 2x quicker. Its just a different way of showing that you'll run out of morale faster.

[Micro102]

Because both armies (or in this case navies) don't have the same moral at the start of the battle, you won't both start with a full morale bar. If you have 1/2 the max morale that the other guy has, you'll start with 1/2 the morale bar rather then losing your morale 2x quicker. Its just a different way of showing that you'll run out of morale faster.

But even when specializing in navy, with the morale idea and a sweet commander, literally everything being better. My ships started with nearly 0 morale. Note I was England vs Castille. And different numbers of ships gave different morale amounts.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Pro-tip byzantium guy: when you start the game paused ally with EVERYONE and call them all in on the ottomans when you're ready.

The knights, bulgaria, serbia, and anyone else you can get your hands on will greatly relieve you of pressure.

Specially the knights,  in one D&T game the took a whole third of Anatolia, I felt terrible, but as byzantium I was obliged to take their mainland provinces.

Oh ya, in D&T those galley fleets rule the waves until like... 1540.

[Lumbajak]

Spoiler: Great Britannia (click to show/hide)

Just got Absolute Monarchy and am no longer in a regency council. Next time I should hopefully be the only one in the Americas, and own all of the Middle East.

Also I got Savoy and Britanny in PUs and still have about 40 vassals.

[Azthor]

Pro-tip byzantium guy: when you start the game paused ally with EVERYONE and call them all in on the ottomans when you're ready.

The knights, bulgaria, serbia, and anyone else you can get your hands on will greatly relieve you of pressure.

Specially the knights,  in one D&T game the took a whole third of Anatolia, I felt terrible, but as byzantium I was obliged to take their mainland provinces.

Oh ya, in D&T those galley fleets rule the waves until like... 1540.

Assuming you can survive the often unavoidable war between Bulgaria and Serbia, that should keep the Ottomans from declaring war for long enough for Byzantinum to grab a few unaligned OPMs with their Roman casus belli; get military drill and the Ottomans shouldn't be much of a problem. Do note, however, that once you run over the Ottomans you will probably be stuck in a chain of wars against the muslims, specially so against the Mamluks.

[RedKing]

Spoiler: Great Britannia (click to show/hide)

Just got Absolute Monarchy and am no longer in a regency council. Next time I should hopefully be the only one in the Americas, and own all of the Middle East.

Also I got Savoy and Britanny in PUs and still have about 40 vassals.

[Colbert]Great Britannia...or the Greatest Britannia?[/Colbert] 
Though it does look like France still exists in rump form around Auvergne. You should correct that oversight, lest they think they can unite le hommes d' Francais against your enlightened Anglo rule.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I dont know man, in my experience th serb-bulgarian war is usually pretty tame, as far as wars go against the muslim anatolia/egypt/arabian area, if you can keep a buffer between you and the mamelukes/whateverelsepopsup you'll be fine.

Once again let me state that if you can secure the knights some territory they're a fantastic ally/buffer against the muslims.

Also later in the game castille/hungary/austria can be very good allies, especially against poland-lithuania.

[Rez]

If France and Hungary/Austria/Burgundy do their thing, you'll need to get an alliance with one of them, so the others don't get ideas.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

Planning to play this again starting in 1399. Any good European nation for starter? I prefer to not use superpower, like France or Great Britain. Last time I played this when only In Nominee was available as Bradenburg but now if I start in 1399, it is under a personal union with Luxemburg...

[Tarran]

Bavaria is nice and decent if you can get not-smashed if I recall correctly. They have plenty of missions to make them a regional power fast.

Or you could do Austria, though they're pretty strong too.

Milan maybe? They don't seem too powerful or too weak.

Or maybe Bohemia?

Really, just look for anyone with >2 provinces, they should be reasonable medium powers since most HRE powers in Europe at the time are 1-3 provinces. Though don't go with Burgundy unless you're willing to war with France.

[Descan]

You could try Holland? Watch out for Burgundy.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Depends what you're going for.

Hansa is a good trading start, as is Venice.
Irish minor/Scotland are good challenge nations, as is the various one province countries scattered around.
There's a whole bunch of one province minors in Germany but they'll be stuck in Imperial politics which complicates things.
Portugal is perhaps the best coloniser in the game but has to keep a strong relation with Spain or be destroyed. Aragon can be fun if you choose to vent your wrath against the heathens to the south.
Poland/Lithuania and the pre-Russian states are interesting but are usually sandwiched between the HRE and the hordes to the east.
The Papal State is a very very interesting country and can have the highest infamy loss per year which means once you start rolling you don't have to worry about honour, the other Italian states can be just as much fun but with less unique mechanics.
Bohemia/Austria are the HRE masters if you want to try to reform and recreate the HRE.
The Netherlands sates are also quite fun but it can be a pain to form, you'll also might get slim pickings when it comes to colonising once Spain/Britain had her full.

[Pakhawaj]

I'm a bit late to the game, but I've just acquired Divine Wind. What are the good mods?
My favourite mod prior to Divine Wind was Magna Mundi but I'm pretty sure there isn't a divine wind version of that, so is there a similar mod? Or a mod which attempts to accomplish the same sort of thing (historical plausibility)?

Thank you!