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Togre

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Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« on: August 15, 2011, 01:13:17 pm »
I got my first not easy mandate--gonna have to get lucky on imports to complete it (need glass).  So I looked up what happens when you fail a mandate.

Failure = 1 bad thought for baron + punishment for some (random-ish) dwarf.

but

No dwarf assigned to Justice (sheriff or captain of guard) = no punishment + 1 (more) bad thought for the baron.

So failing the mandate will give my baron 2 bad thoughts. 

If my baron is a happy camper, 2 bad thoughts aren't really that bad.  Right?

And...

If my fortress is generally happy (no tantrums) there is no real reason to have Justice (sherrif/cpt. of gaurd).  Right?


Or am I missing some obvious down sides?
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 01:14:48 pm »
If you ever set up a justice system, all that punishment that doesn't happen because there's no justice will all be meted out at once.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 01:16:39 pm »
So it's time to double down or fold, you're saying.  If I don't implement it now, I dare never start.  Hmmm...something to mull. Thanks
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 01:17:37 pm »
Besides, Dwarves who tantrum can be dealt with via the Fortress Spider pit, not by the hammer.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 01:41:46 pm »
Give your sheriff a wooden weapon.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 02:29:55 pm »
Just build a giant jail, and you'll be fine.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 02:52:52 pm »
Quote from: Kilroy the Grand on August 15, 2011, 01:41:46 pm
Give your sheriff a wooden weapon.
Or a spoilerite hammer, if you are feeling fancy
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 02:58:15 pm »
Nonono, give him an artifact platinum warhammer and remove all of the dirty stinky peasant filth from the sight of your upper-classes and those worthy to be ordained as leaders-of-dwarves by Armok.

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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 03:00:37 pm »
For maximum usefulness, give your fortress guard wooden or bone crossbows. Harmless enough when giving beatings, deadly enough behind fortifications when shooting spiky metal death at invading gobbos.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 03:05:51 pm »
won't they try to shoot the criminal scum, or that only applies during tantrums?
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 03:09:34 pm »
Tantrums only - which to me is another plus...
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 04:45:07 pm »
why deny yourself of the !!FUN!!?  go with the justice system!
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 04:50:11 pm »
Nah, the trick is to let the violations accumulate for a while and THEN implement justice.  You'll get to see a Stalinist purge in your fortress.
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 09:01:18 pm »
Quote from: elf-fondling human on August 15, 2011, 02:29:55 pm
Just build a giant jail, and you'll be fine.
No, build a Superjail!
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Re: Mandates w/out Justice = Not so bad?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 09:22:39 pm »
My fort is up to 46/50 dwarves with pending jail time. The only ones with a clean record are my starting 7 miner/duke, a legendary pure wrestler who is a former mayor, a (relatively) lesser axedwarf and my gem setter. Shit might go down eventually but I don't think it would be too hard to keep it under control (famous last words)
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