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[monk12]

I'm confused. One of the peacocks has vanished completely.

There were five tossed into the pit. One died of suffocation after one of his fellows pecked him in the neck and got his spinal cord. Another has completely vanished: no skeleton, no corpse, nothing.

Did... did she... eat it...?!

Is there a hatch over the dumping pit? He might have flown out.

[MDFification]

We're actually closer to ironing out the kinks in the childcare system than last time I checked the thread. Miracles.
Glad to see that what could perhaps be the dorfiest idea ever is coming to fruition.

EDIT: However, I have a few suggestions, most of which revolve around not wasting the children;
If you can devise some way to allow a tantruming child to leave, do. Tantrums will generally lead to madness anyway, no point in not letting the kid out, recovering, and then being reinserted. It gives the parents some happy thoughts, too.
Also, if a kid gets seriously injured, take them to the hospital and put them back in. This will increase survival rates and train doctors, where otherwise you'd just get a dead kid.

[ImagoDeo]

Is there a hatch over the dumping pit? He might have flown out.

They can fly? I thought they were entirely ground bound, since I've never seen one flying before.

I can put hatches over the pits and lock them. Thanks.

[monk12]

Is there a hatch over the dumping pit? He might have flown out.

They can fly? I thought they were entirely ground bound, since I've never seen one flying before.

I can put hatches over the pits and lock them. Thanks.

Wiki's down, so I can't check for absolute sure, but I believe they do. The flight pathfinding AI is all kinds of buggered, so you never normally see them do it, but sometimes when they get crowded they sorta... pop out. I've had dwarves get popped up on walls near sufficiently crowded traffic areas, but that was a long while ago so I don't know if that bug ever got fixed.

[ImagoDeo]

Hm.

I checked my unit lists.

The peacock no longer exists. I'm not making this up. I think she swallowed it whole...

[Ravendarksky]

I'm giving this a go... but have had no children in my first three migrant waves ¬_¬ We've got everything setup and bred almost a 100 peacocks.

[Sutremaine]

What's your child cap at? If it's 0, raise the number and lower it again after a couple of months.

[Ravendarksky]

What's your child cap at? If it's 0, raise the number and lower it again after a couple of months.

Cap is 100:100... I was wanting lots of children!

[Sutremaine]

You've probably already got some pregnant dwarves then. You just need to wait a while.

[Di]

You've probably already got some pregnant dwarves then. You just need to wait a while.

All the evilness of the world in just a couple of sentences.

[Ravendarksky]

***TESTS SUSPENDED until enclosure redesign is complete***

Subject A

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`Test Subject A' Asoltosid has been ecstatic lately.  She slept in a bedroom like a personal palace recently.  She dined in a legendary dining room recently.  She has complained of the lack of a well lately.  She admired a fine Door lately.  She admired a very fine tastefully arranged Statue lately.  She talked with mother lately.  She was comforted by a lovely waterfall lately. 
She is the daughter of `DOCTOR' Ivorycrypts and Shorast Inchworks.  She is a dubious worshipper of Sebs£r Crabdungeon. 
She is a citizen of The Labor of Stockades.  She is a member of Childteachers the Goldenrod Abbey. 
She is one year old, born on the 3rd of Slate in the year 555. 
She is scrawny.  Her hair is dry.  Her very long hair is arranged in double braids.  Her narrow nose is upturned.  Her head is short.  Her nose bridge is slightly convex.  Her ears are somewhat splayed out.  Her hair is pale taupe.  Her skin is burnt umber.  Her eyes are jade. 
She is slow to tire, but she is clumsy and weak. 
`Test Subject A' Asoltosid likes native silver, fine pewter and prase.  When possible, she prefers to consume herring and strawberry wine.  She absolutely detests cave spiders. 
She has a good kinesthetic sense, but she has poor analytical abilities and a really bad memory. 
She can handle stress.  She enjoys the company of others.  She is very active.  She loves a good thrill.  She finds helping others rewarding.  She is modest.  She lacks confidence.  She is occasionally given to procrastination.  She laughs in a unique way when she's nervous.  She lowers her eyes when she's annoyed.  She needs alcohol to get through the working day. 

A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.

Test Subject B Deceased - Bludgeoned by Plump helmet biscuits

Test Subject C

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`Test Subject C' Olinzanos has been ecstatic lately.  She slept in a fantastic bedroom recently.  She ate a fine dish lately.  She dined in a legendary dining room recently.  She had a fine drink lately.  She admired a fine Seat lately.  She admired a fine tastefully arranged Table lately.  She talked with mother lately.  She was comforted by a lovely waterfall lately. 
She is the daughter of `Doctor' Gloriestrumpets and `Soaper' Boatsstabs.  She is a worshipper of Doren the Golden Tax. 
She is a citizen of The Labor of Stockades.  She is a member of Childteachers the Goldenrod Abbey. 
She is one year old, born on the 17th of Slate in the year 555. 
She is scrawny.  She has a very high-pitched voice.  Her nose is upturned.  Her ears are tall.  Her somewhat narrow head is somewhat short.  Her brass eyes are slightly wide-set.  Her eyebrows are somewhat high.  Her medium-length hair is arranged in double braids.  Her hair is saffron.  Her skin is dark brown. 
She is weak and quite susceptible to disease. 
`Test Subject C' Olinzanos likes sylvite, bismuth bronze, rhodolite, giant brown recluse spider silk, pig tail fiber fabric, crossbows, weapon racks, buckets, guineafowls for their social nature and crow men for their intelligence.  When possible, she prefers to consume cave dragon, kangaroo cheese, dwarven ale, alpaca's milk, dwarven wheat flour and rock nuts.  She absolutely detests bark scorpions. 
She has a great affinity for language, great intuition and a good intellect, but she has a meager ability with social relationships and little patience. 
She is slow to anger.  She occasionally overindulges.  She can handle stress.  She likes to try new things.  She dislikes intellectual discussions.  She is candid and sincere in dealings with others.  She does not go out of her way to help others.  She doesn't like to compromise with others.  She strives for excellence.  She bites her nails when she's annoyed.  She  becomes very rigid when she's angry.  She needs alcohol to get through the working day. 

A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.

Setup

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Findings so far:
Each hit seems to give 3 exp to fighter and armour user, dodge exp seems to equate to roughly double fighter exp. (Subject A has 8 combat encounters and has 45/24/24, Subject C has 1 combat encounter and has 6/3/3)

Lessons learnt:

Lesson 1: Stock the food before you put in the child:

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Lesson 2: Combat can throw test subjects/animals through impassible squares. Subject A has escaped.

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Lesson 3: Thirsty Dwarfs.
Subject C has died. The training area is littered with empty barrels... we don't know how she managed to drink all the booze so quickly. A full 12 years stock should probably be put in at the start. unless we can come up with some automated top up delivery system using minecarts.

[Sutremaine]

I'd go with the 12-year booze delivery. Delivering it via minecart opens up the possibility of the dwarf getting hit, and you don't want a random minecart death when the dwarf is a couple of years from growing up.

Assuming a consumption rate of 4 units a season, you'll need about 200 units to take a dwarf from near-babyhood to near-adult. I think, anyway -- I have a niggling feeling that it's a little bit on the low side. Maybe I've played too much Papers, Please today. Whoever linked to that here recently, damn you! DF is enough addiction for me.

[wierd]

I'd go with the 12-year booze delivery. Delivering it via minecart opens up the possibility of the dwarf getting hit, and you don't want a random minecart death when the dwarf is a couple of years from growing up.

Assuming a consumption rate of 4 units a season, you'll need about 200 units to take a dwarf from near-babyhood to near-adult. I think, anyway -- I have a niggling feeling that it's a little bit on the low side. Maybe I've played too much Papers, Please today. Whoever linked to that here recently, damn you! DF is enough addiction for me.

MUAHAHAHAHA!

Glory to Arzstotska!

[ImagoDeo]

*ahem* Thank you, wierd, but now it's time for real !!SCIENCE!!.

Oddom Agsalzas
First Wave, Subject One of One

Initial Evaluation (No date, sometime in the summer of 26)

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Second Evaluation - 10th Limestone, 26

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Third Evaluation - 14th Hematite, 27

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Fourth Evaluation - 11th Opal, 27

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Fifth Evaluation - 2nd Malachite, 28

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Relevant:

• Between the Third and Fourth evaluations, she began to get used to tragedy.
• Also between the Third and Fourth evaluations, she was attacked, sustained major injuries, and recovered, as evidenced by the scars.
• Her current military statistics: 29/500 Dabbling Wrestler, 20/500 Dabbling Striker, 443/500 Dabbling Fighter, 156/500 Dabbling Armor User, 432/500 Dabbling Dodger
• Between the Initial and First evaluations, she went from having "very bad analytical abilities" to "a lousy intellect." Soul attribute atrophy as seen before in the case of some dwarves losing memory. Add Analytical Ability to the list of atrophy-prone attributes.

[wierd]

Would adding a no-eat no-drink no-sleep "intelligent" creature to the mix help alleviate the soul attribute atrophy?

Something that can talk, but has no corporeal needs, like a plump helmet man?

That would allow the child to converse, but prevent it from developing a friendship, since that only happens with dwarves.

Since we don't want plumpy to be a combattant, we could put 2 pen/pastures in the test chamber, one with the poultry, and another with plumpy on it. We could do the whole "good creature bad creature" thing with the child, and keep it socially adjusted while we reprogram its little mind.