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IDDQDwarf

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Random noob questions
« on: June 29, 2011, 01:20:31 am »

1) Can I somehow forbid an item from use? Or put an item on auto-dump? (For example, if I don't want diorite or some rock, is there a way to make sure that it is dumped as soon as it is mined? Or forbidden to made into anything in workshops?


2) Rat remains, lizard remains, other crappy remains. I currently have these being dumped outside my fort in a corpse pile. Do they ever go away? At what rate do they decompose? Is dumping them an more preferable than piling them? Also, often times my dwarfs won't move rat remains - what the hell is wrong with them and why are they lazy?


3) I still don't really understand cave-ins, even after reading the wiki and other explanations. How does a room or structure become disconnected from all support?


4) In my current fortress, I have yet to find any lignite or bit-coal, but I have found some magma about 8 levels down from where I currently am. Should I set up smelters for coal in the meantime, or just go straight for the magma, and how would I go about this? I haven't worked with magma yet, any advice on how not to melt the universe would be appreciated.
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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 01:27:55 am »

1) Can I somehow forbid an item from use? Or put an item on auto-dump? (For example, if I don't want diorite or some rock, is there a way to make sure that it is dumped as soon as it is mined? Or forbidden to made into anything in workshops?


2) Rat remains, lizard remains, other crappy remains. I currently have these being dumped outside my fort in a corpse pile. Do they ever go away? At what rate do they decompose? Is dumping them an
more preferable than piling them? Also, often times my dwarfs won't move rat remains - what the hell is wrong with them and why are they lazy?


3) I still don't really understand cave-ins, even after reading the wiki and other explanations. How does a room or structure become disconnected from all support?


4) In my current fortress, I have yet to find any lignite or bit-coal, but I have found some magma about 8 levels down from where I currently am. Should I set up smelters for coal in the meantime, or just go straight for the magma, and how would I go about this? I haven't worked with magma yet, any advice on how not to melt the universe would be appreciated.
1) you go into [z] stones if you want to forbid some stones from being used as material (just set them economic);
2) they will stay there for a long time and unless your refuse pile tiles are 'outside' then they will only stay there for a year or two;
3) cave-ins you have to experience first, try starting a new embark and channelling a slope and then digging under it while removing any support (floor tiles count) from it;
4) yes, unless the magma is like 130 levels below you; don't even bother with machinery and pumps it will kill your FPS. Set up your fuel-needed industry where your magma is. Keep in mind, that steel production needs carbon-heavy stuff to produce steel (i.e. even with magma you need some charcoal). It should be easy to get some trees burnt in caverns if you wall off a little of them (provided they're not 25 z high). Floors can't be destroyed by destroyers and hatches can only be destroyed by the evil things on their level:

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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 01:55:15 am »

1) Can I somehow forbid an item from use? Or put an item on auto-dump? (For example, if I don't want diorite or some rock, is there a way to make sure that it is dumped as soon as it is mined? Or forbidden to made into anything in workshops?
Check out {z} screen and the stone screen. Make the stone you don't want to use a economical stone ( red-colored ). You can turn ore on for stone usage if you want so from there.

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2) Rat remains, lizard remains, other crappy remains. I currently have these being dumped outside my fort in a corpse pile. Do they ever go away? At what rate do they decompose? Is dumping them an more preferable than piling them? Also, often times my dwarfs won't move rat remains - what the hell is wrong with them and why are they lazy?
Are the remains outside? You'll have to permit them to take refuse from outside, o>r>o>v, you might have to set refuse gathering on, which's in the same menu. They decomposes slowly, I prefer to set them to be dumped using o>r>k, they don't stinks up, so you'll be fine.

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3) I still don't really understand cave-ins, even after reading the wiki and other explanations. How does a room or structure become disconnected from all support?
By not being connected at N/S/W/E by walls, floors, supports, ramps, fortifications. Walls and supports holds things below and above them. If any part of structure aren't connected in those way, it'll cave in.

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4) In my current fortress, I have yet to find any lignite or bit-coal, but I have found some magma about 8 levels down from where I currently am. Should I set up smelters for coal in the meantime, or just go straight for the magma, and how would I go about this? I haven't worked with magma yet, any advice on how not to melt the universe would be appreciated.
Go straight for magma, I'd say, and make sure you never have a doorway straight into it on same level. Channel out a few spots for your workshops to get magma ( all the better if the impassable squares can cover them ), then connect them by mining. Take any ores out, and preferrably all stones so you can either dump them properly later or use it up. Then finally, smooth the wall between magma and the rest of the tunnel (prettier if you smooth all of it, but not needed ) and make sure ramps are still there ( it won't get in the way of powering things ) and carve fortification in a corner. Wait for it all to fill up past 4/7 (The magma works won't run with less ) and build the shops on top of the channel-holes.
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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 08:12:40 am »

I finally discovered that you can mass-select enemies for killing. :/ No need to keep track on the battlefield as much now! :D

How can you do that? (selecting multiple enemies for killing)
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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 08:17:49 am »

I finally discovered that you can mass-select enemies for killing. :/ No need to keep track on the battlefield as much now! :D

How can you do that? (selecting multiple enemies for killing)

Go in attack in squad orders. Select from list, hold shift to select multiple enemies to slaughter. Or use r to select an area of enemies for slaughtering (be careful with latter, you can accidentally kill your own dwarves or civ creatures, making the military the enemy of everyone ).
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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2011, 09:27:27 am »

Go in attack in squad orders. Select from list, hold shift to select multiple enemies to slaughter. Or use r to select an area of enemies for slaughtering (be careful with latter, you can accidentally kill your own dwarves or civ creatures, making the military the enemy of everyone ).

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Re: Random noob questions
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2011, 06:48:12 pm »

Actually you can't kill your own citizens with the a-r order, but be careful: you can accidentally attack a caravan, and the aforementioned loyalty cascade (military killing itself, then everyone else) will occur if you attack the dwarven caravan or emissary.
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