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[Vector]

Oh, for fuck's sake.  I pretty much can't post given this little time.

Dariush, the basic thing is this:

I'm bothering Max because Max was being absurd.  My initial read of "ah, yes, probably town!" started to get pinged, so I wanted to keep asking questions.  Folks are generally not clear until they're dead.  That, and if he's town, he can damned well clean up his game a bit.  So: got a read, don't trust my read because I haven't completed many games with him, trying to sharpen my read.

I'm bothering you because I don't know anything about you and not that many people are focused on you--makes you a good target for a read.

I haven't been bothering many people in general because

a. My style is generally not "bother everyone simultaneously," even if that's coming into vogue right now; I tend to start missing large swathes of information when I do that

b. I was gone for half of the Day or more taking care of numerous Real Life problems, including an examination

c. There was already, in my point of view, enough people bugging IO and Jokerman about the lurking problem, and I could use my energy elsewhere.  Cooks, soup, spoiling, etc.

That's pretty much the shape of it.

Posting now because it's almost 5.  Sorry I didn't post sooner--I've basically been working since 6 this morning.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Dariush: Toaster, Vector
Max White: Pandarsenic, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: IronyOwl
ToonyMan: Dariush, Jim Groovester, lordnincompoop, Max White, Think0028


 The day grows late. After countless pots of coffee you decide that enough is enough. ToonyMan is going to die!

  He has a panicked look in his eyes as he's dragged outside, but no one is listening to his protestations of innocent. Jim Groovester follows everyone else out with the rifle.

  "Come on, man, this isn't cool! You can't just shoot people! It's...it's not even legal!" screams Toony.

  "Yeah, well, neither is eating people you damn doppelganger!"

  "I'm not-" *bang*

  Even Toonyman has a rather shocked expression on his face. He looks down at the bullet hole in his chest and crumples to the ground.

  You stare at him, waiting for the tell-tale shift from human to monster. But it doesn't happen. He was, it seems, innocent after all.

   "Um...well. Damn. I guess...I guess we should check the body." Stammers Jim. "You know...make sure?"

  His jacket gets unzipped. You find a business card in his pocket touting him as being from Vigilant Security. Well...he did say he was an observant guard. Guess he was telling the truth about that too.

  In any case, he's obviously both human and dead.

  Exhausted, you stagger back to your houses to get some sleep. You have to do this again tomorrow!



The day has ended. I have it in the rules that we can only have 2 extensions a day. Might change that for next time if people don't like that rule, but for consistency's sake I'm going to stick with that for this game.

In any case, send in your actions!

(Also, I've prodded IronyOwl)

[Mephansteras]

 In the warmth of the main room you gather again. Hot coffee and warm rolls serve to wake you up and fill your bellies. And yet...someone is missing.

 Pandarsenic. With worried glances you decided to go check on him. Flashlights and lanterns in hand you trudge off to his house. There you see his door open, and a trail of blood leading out of the room. You look inside, cautiously. No one is there, but there is blood splattered all about the room. Whatever happened here was gruesome, to say the least. You poke around a bit, and do find something interesting. A book called Mediums: A lifeline to the dead, and a few other books on the afterlife and contacting the dead. You can only wonder if he truly possessed that ability, since it looks like he won’t need any special ability to speak with the dead now.

 Depressed, you head back. The doppelgangers are still out there, still killing. You need to find them, and soon, or Pandarsenic won’t be the only victim of theirs.



Day 2 has begun. It will go until ~10am Pacific Friday

[Toaster]

Max:

I don't have people backing me.

Why do you need people backing you to make a case on someone?


Dariush:  What is your scum list now that your top two picks have flipped town?


Jokerman:  You successfully lurked the day away without ever throwing a vote.  I want my questions answered, still.  Also, what is your reason for why you never voted yesterday.

[Jim Groovester]

Max White, for reasons I can't completely recall right now.

Oh, right. For buddying up to me like maaad.

Max White, why were you trying to butter me up like a piece of toast?

And I was also getting ready to vote IronyOwl for lurking but maybe he'll show up.

[Max White]

Why do you need people backing you to make a case on someone?

Not to make a case, just to know for sure who is what.

Max White, why were you trying to butter me up like a piece of toast?

Buddying? I saw a conflict and chose the less scummy looking side. What, are you saying we should have lynched you instead?
When Pandar started to shield Toony and do he's best to chainsaw me, it was clear there was a team there, so thinking they were scum was justified, with or without your support.

Toony, which human role would you prefer?

Dariush: Was this a random vote?

[Jim Groovester]

Max White, why were you trying to butter me up like a piece of toast?

Buddying? I saw a conflict and chose the less scummy looking side. What, are you saying we should have lynched you instead?
When Pandar started to shield Toony and do he's best to chainsaw me, it was clear there was a team there, so thinking they were scum was justified, with or without your support.

What the hell do ToonyMan and Pandarsenic have to do with anything.

You said I was town because I succeeded at some stupid meta test you came up with on the spot. This bugs me because 1) You don't know my meta well enough to make a good enough judgment about that, and 2) You thought I was town for just that one thing.

Why the meta test, and why would that be your only reason to think I'm town?

[Pandarsenic]

You assholes.

[ToonyMan]

Don't worry Pandar we can be together forever.

[Jokerman-EXE]

Jokerman:

tl;dr Max White is my top pick thus far, though it's a very close lead over Think. Overall I'm just watching the arguments go back and forth for now, so maybe something else will stand out as time goes.

Problem:  You're not voting Max (or anyone.)  If he's your top pick, why aren't you voting him?  If he's not a good enough pick to vote, why aren't you pressing people to find a voteworthy pick?  I smell someone trying to get through D1 without notice.

I wasn't voting for him because while he was my top suspect, I didn't fully believe that he was scum. I wasn't pressing any people because I was goddam busy as hell, which may be a weak excuse but oh well.

I didn't vote yesterday because I don't really throw my vote around like you people do. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but that's the way it is.

[Max White]

What the hell do ToonyMan and Pandarsenic have to do with anything.

You said I was town because I succeeded at some stupid meta test you came up with on the spot. This bugs me because 1) You don't know my meta well enough to make a good enough judgment about that, and 2) You thought I was town for just that one thing.

Why the meta test, and why would that be your only reason to think I'm town?

No, I never said you were townie, just that your reply was good enough to resolve what side I should join. You assumed I thought you were town, I don't know why, but it is something you came to on your own.
I was presented with evidence by both you and Toony, and I sought to confirm my suspicions. Your not town in my books, you just said the right thing for me to believe your side of the argument.

[Toaster]

Max:

Why do you need people backing you to make a case on someone?

Not to make a case, just to know for sure who is what.

Don't be so spineless.  You're the only person you can trust.  Be self-reliant.

Also, don't assume both sides in an argument are of opposite alignment- they can always be both town- or both scum.


Jokerman:  And you start off D2 with absolutely zero effort.  Do you have any actual cases on anyone?

[Think0028]

Max White: Oh, you've never called Jim town? Then what about this post and this post where you call his reaction 'Town Jim'? Why was your only reason for voting Toony 'I believed Jim'? Why didn't you do your own work to determine if Toony was town? Why are you constantly throwing up WIFOM with the shield of "Oh, that was just a thought exercise?"

Irony: Where are you? Why didn't you ever move your RV? Do you have any suspects?

[Max White]

Nope, I said that is what town jim would do, but that doesn't mean he must be town jim. Although trying to figure out what one he is would be WIFOM, so not worth the effort, and instead I just go with what was before me.

Also, what do you mean only reason? Hell no. He was acting scummy on he's own, well pandar also helped a lot there. Why would you make the assertion that my only reasoning was supporting jim?

[Think0028]

Because you said as much. Just now.

your reply was good enough to resolve what side I should join[/b]. You assumed I thought you were town, I don't know why, but it is something you came to on your own.
I was presented with evidence by both you and Toony, and I sought to confirm my suspicions. Your not town in my books, you just said the right thing for me to believe your side of the argument.

Emphasis mine.

You were riding the vote of the guy who looked town. In addition, you hardly did any scumhunting once you decided to ride the Toony bandwagon, just defending yourself and occasionally fielding a question to an inactive person. What happened to your questioning?