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[clockwork]

How likely do you think they'll be integrated again? My understanding is, they opened up hell, so he took em out. I really miss these things, along with the gremlins, ratmen, and batmen that came out of them.  Maybe one day he'll make an Abyss layer...

[Girlinhat]

These things occur in the caverns now...

[clockwork]

Ya, true, but my point is there's no bottomless pits =P

[Aachen]

Deep enough, I wit.

And all sorts of *men live in the caverns, now. Including those you mention AFAIK.

[Girlinhat]

If you want bottomless pits, go to 40d   Sorry to say it like this, but games adjust over time, and you either play the old version or get with the new.

[gawwy]

If i recall the circus has bottomless pits in the form of glowing Erie things?

[Vercingetorix]

I would like to see underground rivers return and have them integrated into the caverns; when boats are implemented it might be cool to have dwarven traders appear on the river if it connects to a site (along with maybe friendly subterranean tribes as well...or unfriendly tribes trying to raid a cavern outpost).

[MiniMacker]

I would like to see underground rivers return and have them integrated into the caverns; when boats are implemented it might be cool to have dwarven traders appear on the river if it connects to a site (along with maybe friendly subterranean tribes as well...or unfriendly tribes trying to raid a cavern outpost).

Underground rivers would be a wonderful feature. Boats seem a little too safe elvish. The dwarves should swim through the damned current.

On a completely different note, I say there should be pits. Perhaps not bottomless, just something that opens the first cave layer.

[Psieye]

Deep pits connecting cavern layers can occasionally be found. If you want an all-swallowing pit without breaching the circus, you'll have to make do with SMR.

[NecroRebel]

If you want an all-swallowing pit without breaching the circus, you'll have to make do with SMR.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure why nothing like this exists. I mean a pit that goes from one of the cavern layers, if not the surface, straight to the magma sea, and not actually filled with magma like a magma pool. It would provide the easy infinite trash removal that bottomless pits are supposed to, would provide fliers a way to your fort from other cavern layers similar to how bottomless pits were dangerous underground areas in 40d, and wouldn't provide very easy access to magma like pools do.

[Oliolli]

Underground rivers would be a wonderful feature. Boats seem a little too safe elvish. The dwarves should swim through the damned current.

Humans swim. Dwarves pour the current full of magma, obsidianize it, smooth it and call it a road.

[antymattar]

I want them back! Rivers, frog tribes, ratmen, bottomless pits, and the like. All of them!

[Girlinhat]

Good news!  I found it for you here!

[Monk321654]

I would like to see underground rivers return and have them integrated into the caverns; when boats are implemented it might be cool to have dwarven traders appear on the river if it connects to a site (along with maybe friendly subterranean tribes as well...or unfriendly tribes trying to raid a cavern outpost).

Underground rivers would be a wonderful feature. Boats seem a little too safe elvish. The dwarves should swim through the damned current.

On a completely different note, I say there should be pits. Perhaps not bottomless, just something that opens the first cave layer.

Do you know how hard it is to swim without knees?

[Organum]

I doubt there is a great number of people who do.