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Adobe Fortress?
« on: June 04, 2011, 03:20:31 pm »

So with clay now being a buildable material I was going to start an above-ground fortress styled after the Adobe cultures in the western p[art of North America. If you don't know what I mean just Google image search "adobe village". I'm planning on basing my fortress on clay, making clay jugs and such instead of out of wood.

My question is: What sort of starting build should I use for this? Skills, starting equipment? Starting location is probably going to be in a savanna with trees and a stream. Help appreciated!
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 03:42:37 pm »

Build it like the current human cities house then a farm out back with no defense what so ever
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 03:47:07 pm »

Well, starting build isn't that important. I'd go with above-ground crop if you can get them, lots of food and fireproof material. And an axe for beds.

As for skills, no miner or masons of course. A doc, an administrator, a farmer, a cook/brewer and three potters.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 04:09:55 pm »

I actually begun a project doing exactly this, just started with normal administrators. Then build a single house for all my dwarves of clay, and slowly expanded the village, making sure workers had bedrooms in the houses they worked. It fucked up when I began excavating for a castle with water around :-P
Good thing about clay is that you have an endless supply from one single tile. Just remember that it's a hauling task gathering it, so pretty low priority. Thus better have a bunch of dedicated hauler dwarves.
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 04:30:54 pm »

I built an all-above ground clay fortress in a savanna with a stream (totally different style, from what it sounds like you're doing, though--yours sounds like an awesome idea). If you're not gonna mine at all, I highly recommend bringing a carpenter, and of course a potter.  Otherwise, though, I'd focus on military skills; I, at least, really didn't end up needing a lot of skilled civilians.

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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 01:30:44 am »

I'm going to try to make a clay brick fortress. Hopefully I'll find a plain with a volcano so I can make both bricks and try to make a Dwarven Glass Cannon.
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 02:08:12 am »

Clay is considered stone, masons are required.  Aside from that, a lot of spears and wooden shields, perhaps mod in bone spears/shields and cloth bricks (canvas sheets for roofs and some walls).  Clay may also be underground, so bring a pick to dig out the clay pit.  Encourage small plots of farmland and many grazing animals.  Make the emergency alert burrow encompass the interior of every building, so that when you call an alert they run to the nearest hut.

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 02:12:04 am »

Am I the only one who thought this was a fortress created using Adobe reader?
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 02:13:02 am »

Am I the only one who thought this was a fortress created using Adobe reader?
Not quite, but I also thought about the company.
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2011, 02:22:05 am »

Clay is considered stone, masons are required.  Aside from that, a lot of spears and wooden shields, perhaps mod in bone spears/shields and cloth bricks (canvas sheets for roofs and some walls).  Clay may also be underground, so bring a pick to dig out the clay pit.  Encourage small plots of farmland and many grazing animals.  Make the emergency alert burrow encompass the interior of every building, so that when you call an alert they run to the nearest hut.
The "clay is stone" thing has actually been fixed.

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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2011, 02:41:56 am »

Then clay as bricks still requires masonry.  It's certainly not lumber or metal...

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2011, 03:09:36 am »

Pottery?
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Re: Adobe Fortress?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2011, 03:30:27 am »

Then clay as bricks still requires masonry.  It's certainly not lumber or metal...
Yeah, building walls requires the masonry skill, but it doesn't grant experience and doesn't make that big a difference in speed (not positive it makes any difference).  I usually take a mason but didn't this time I definitely haven't missed it..