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[Flying Dice]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/special-event/celebrating-end-years-snowdown

[UXLZ]

Huh... They really are taking this 'Good player' incentive thing a bit more seriously now. I've been here since early January 2012 and I have never seen Riot give out skins that weren't the ranked challenge ones.

[Flying Dice]

I'd actually like to see statistics on what percentage of the playerbase actually gets skins, heh.

[UXLZ]

Well, they said that like 95% of the community was spotless and 2% got banned or something. Quite a lot of people, I'd imagine.

Or are you suggesting they're doing a fake-out? xD

[Flying Dice]

Nah, just curious about the difference between how many people deserve chat restrictions and how many actually get them.

[IronyOwl]

New favorite term for Maokai: "Boom Groot"

In other news, are supports really that rare in teambuilder? After several minutes of waiting for one, I finally got an Ezreal. He was quite good, but if I'd known there was going to be that much of a delay I'd have just queued as one myself.

[Sinistar]

Man, I'm really not feeling LoL as I used too. Logged in today, figured out my last match was 24th November. And that's not even something new. I lay off LoL for a month and feel absolutely no desire to come back. When I do, I play a few games but then I forget about it.

The new lore is more or less "Lore? What lore?"

Just do what I did and treat everything post-wipe as none-canon. Pff, one of the reasons I picked League was because of the lore 1) existing and 2) being interesting. :\

That's basically it. It's the difference between something which, while sorta crappy, was nostalgia-ridden and had potential for development versus a pile of shit dumped into a text editor and copy-pasted a few score times.

Sweet Armok all my yes. And I though it was just me being silly to like the lore of such MP focused game like LoL. Yeah, the past lore was basically just "X happened to him/he is Y/because of Z so he joined Leage of Legends" over and over again, but it had some charm, yeah? And there were some genuinely good ideas there, like how whole LoL is just a proxy war between Demacia/Noxius and it's allies or some stories like Trundle. Because ffs if there was one non-standard character with non-standard story that was Trundle. And then they made him into whatever you call something totally generic and dull these days. But I'm not even raging anymore these days. I look at Cassiopeia's "lore" and just facepalm. But what can you do, right?

I'm probably just thinking to much about this whole thing. Carry on, everyone.

[UXLZ]

Man, I'm really not feeling LoL as I used too. Logged in today, figured out my last match was 24th November. And that's not even something new. I lay off LoL for a month and feel absolutely no desire to come back. When I do, I play a few games but then I forget about it.

The new lore is more or less "Lore? What lore?"

Just do what I did and treat everything post-wipe as none-canon. Pff, one of the reasons I picked League was because of the lore 1) existing and 2) being interesting. :\

That's basically it. It's the difference between something which, while sorta crappy, was nostalgia-ridden and had potential for development versus a pile of shit dumped into a text editor and copy-pasted a few score times.

Sweet Armok all my yes. And I though it was just me being silly to like the lore of such MP focused game like LoL. Yeah, the past lore was basically just "X happened to him/he is Y/because of Z so he joined Leage of Legends" over and over again, but it had some charm, yeah? And there were some genuinely good ideas there, like how whole LoL is just a proxy war between Demacia/Noxius and it's allies or some stories like Trundle. Because ffs if there was one non-standard character with non-standard story that was Trundle. And then they made him into whatever you call something totally generic and dull these days. But I'm not even raging anymore these days. I look at Cassiopeia's "lore" and just facepalm. But what can you do, right?

I'm probably just thinking to much about this whole thing. Carry on, everyone.

No, you're not thinking too much about it. Riot has been steadily fucking over the law since early season two, maybe even season one. Hell, remember the JoJ? That was actually pretty damn interesting a lot of the time. Like the interview with Shaco. What I think happened is that Riot realised "Wait a minute, we can't have an actual story line, because that might lead to a conclusion!!." Same reason Game's Workshop is never, ever going to progress the W40K lore.

If any OCE players feel like adding me, my name on LoL is the same as my name here.

[penguinofhonor]

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[UXLZ]

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No, it didn't have that many good ideas. The League seems like one, but creating factions you want to have cool conflicts and then creating an all-powerful organization whose sole goal is to stop conflict is self-defeating. It shouldn't have made it to the final game, but their story was hastily made to prop up their gameplay and they didn't really care (they didn't even care how well their game was programmed back then).

You know, they could also have interesting actions within the league system itself... Take Fiddlesticks, for example. Thing is though, they didn't need these big overarching stories. Just cool little things on the side, like... I dunno, Teemo collecting mushrooms in some forgotten part of the world, and running into something crazy (like Rengar.) Of course, that's an arguably stupid idea, but they could have used it to flesh out the world's mythos and characters. Hell, they could have had some interesting stuff without even directly involving the champions themselves. It doesn't have to be all about the champions.

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The JoJ was very unpopular, so there's that. And the realization they had was that the only big story they could tell in the old lore was "Two factions try to sneakily fight behind the League's back" so they killed it before it became repetitive. The Noxus/Demacia/Crystal Scar plot was pretty neat, but it wouldn't have the same charm the third or fourth time.

I'd say they've done a decent amount of great work fleshing out their world recently. Most of it is the kind of lore you can't measure with word count (such as making faction champs' visual themes more consistent) but it's still improved the game on the flavor front.

The thing you seem to be missing here... Is that the stories don't have to center around the League or its champions.
Tell us something from Runeterran lore, tell us something from its history or legends. Tell us about the kind of creatures that lurk the forest where Rengar and Kha'Zix hunted, or the deadly uses of the poisonous Shrooms Teemo collects. Integrate the League and its champions into things, but don't make (to take a way of speaking from the Angry Marines) 'ALWAYS CENTRAL ALL THE TIME'.
Then again, most members of LoL's community I've met seem to have the attention spans of a particularly rabid mongoose, so I guess that's asking for too much.

If by faction champs you mean 'member of the same organisation' like Garen and Lux from the Demacian military, yep, that's a good idea. If you mean 'members of the same city-faction' like Twitch and Mundo... Noooooope. Character's should have their individuality.

[penguinofhonor]

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[UXLZ]

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You're seriously arguing that it's reasonable for them to put a ton of effort into interesting characters, then set those characters aside and write stories about different characters. Different characters that are not in the game that they're writing lore for.

Expanding on the world or history or cute details works in other games because other games usually come with a complete story. A game of League has no story, and a lot of people are drawn into it without being interested in the story because of that. This does not mean those people are dumb or ADD like you seem to think. They just think about the game very differently than you do.

Epic stories draw people in. Stories about champions people like and are already familiar with draw people in. The splashy mini sites and videos don't get as much sheer narration done as the JoJ did, but they get way more people paying attention.

They could have jumped through hoops to keep the status quo and the charm. They don't need to get more people interested in the lore. League can make tons of money with no lore at all. But I can't blame the story people for wanting to tell epic stories instead of trite unimportant things and wanting to get more people interested.

Pretty much, yeah.

What I meant by that was more the people who refuse to let others enjoy something they don't. Also, just because a game doesn't have exposition doesn't mean it can't have a 'story'.

It's not that I'm saying that sort of lore is bad, it just isn't timeless. That is, the splashy mini sites will eventually be taken down. Once everything goes on the main site it will be better, though.

It's the 'trite, unimportant things' that make a world come to life.

[Kydrasz]

Huh apparently this just happened.

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I don't even play Cho'Gath that much.

[Skyrunner]

Still waiting for mine

[Jopax]

Let's play a nice game of League I said.

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