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[Luke_Prowler]

Why are they nerfing Lee Sin? There's like twelve "squishy" burst casters that need attention and the pick on him.

[zestorum]

OP "squishy" burst casters, better nerf Lee Sin.

[umiman]

What burst caster is OP?

[ansontan2000]

What burst caster is OP?

The white.

Aka LeBlanc.

[umiman]

I distinctly remember not 3 months ago people were complaining that LeBonk was useless. She hasn't changed at all since then. In fact, she's always been in my mind the AP version of Garen (Or more specifically, the LoL variant of Tiny). Extremely painful to people who have no clue how to deal with them.

Hell, you could always do the Dignitas thing and start with 11 health pots.


You could also buy a full MR page like me and start with 96 MR hue hue hue.... Interestingly, it's how I deal with Garen. Except with armour.

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Here's some quick tips:

1. You *beat* LeBonk the same way you beat Garen. If you get into late game, you win. If you don't die, you win for sure. Again, same like Garen.

2. Push her lane. She can't do anything about it. Forget everything you know about last hitting. Autoattack and push her all the way to her tower forever. Then you can either leave to gank or just laugh at her as she futilely tries to push back. Same as Garen...

3. LeBonk's damage is very predictable. She is almost the very definition of a burst caster. However, to actually have any chance of victory she MUST kill her target or she will lose. What this means is simple. If she doesn't kill you with her full combo, you will ALWAYS beat her. ALWAYS. Furthermore, unless she has been ultra fed, there's no way for her to kill someone from 100% to 0%. She can't do it. You need to be under 75% health. So stay up in hp, don't let yourself get down. Spam potions. Grab heals. Wait for her to waste her full combo then punish and kill her for her exuberance.

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Same as Garen lol...

[eerr]

So uh, how do I deal with twitch, when I am the only squishy on the map, and he's jungling on the enemy team?

[Bordellimies]

Alright. 100% convinced now.

Warwick is viable again! Whoo! I love it!

With the Ionic Spark, my clear times were the same as Shyvana. And I can't think of anyone better at running around the jungle with full gp/10 build...

Warwick jungle: "Items? You need items to jungle?"

I've been playing WW every now and them for ages, he has always been viable. Always.

[Wravburn]

Would Ahri be considered a burst caster? Q+W+R+R(+R out) is quite the amazing burst, though it's not 'instant'.


I've decided top/mid are my 'best' roles. I can fulfill the other three roles in specific cases. (I can farm fine as AD carry, I can passively support as Sora, I can do a nice Leona-Supp if I'm on VOIP, and I can derp around the jungle as Skarner/Lee/Shyv/Sej)

Now I'd like to round out my collection of Mid/Top champs, my attention span is too short to focus on becoming godlike with 1 champ, so I'll stick to those 2 roles and let fate (counterpicking) decide what I play. Plus, imo, by getting to know as much champs as possible, I get better. That said, I'm often quite stumped by deciding what to pick against what, and I feel I need a more rounded line-up.

My go-to top champs:

GP, Cho, Rumble, Nasus, Olaf. (Swain+Vlad). My Riven-fu is not that strong.

My go-to mid champs:

Ahri, Xerath, Malz, Annie, Veigar. (Swain+Vlad). My Cass/Ani-fu is not that strong.


What would you guys recommend to balance out my stable?

[Ahra]

is it just me or do noone play the new champions after maybe an week?
never seen a single sejuani.

[Knirisk]

is it just me or do noone play the new champions after maybe an week?
never seen a single sejuani.

It's probably because they're put out on the free champ rotation a week after their release...

And then no one plays them anymore because they're all 6300. I never see Fizz anymore either.

[Knirisk]

They have to be blatantly overpowered to stay in use these days. Besides, Sejuani's a tank. People don't get big fat killstreaks with tanks, and that's all that most of the "must play new champion" crowd seeks, anyways.

I know I'd play them if they weren't all 6300, too. I just don't play LoL enough to get that kind of IP in any reasonable timeframe.

Same as me. I play maybe 1-2 games a day, so it takes me quite a while to make IP.

And I actually am starting to prefer Tanky DPS and tanks. I prefer not dying instantly when the whole enemy team converges on you.

[Cthulhu]

I still think they should stop making new champs and start fixing old champs.  The champs they've got now fill the roles well enough that new ones feel redundant and end up dying after a few weeks.  We've got a continual stream of uninspired new champs nobody plays, and meanwhile old champs are languishing.  It's gotta be some variety of crime to put Katarina on everything they make but leave her basically unplayed in decent elo

[Knirisk]

I still think they should stop making new champs and start fixing old champs.

Agreed. There's Evelynn, Sion, and Mundo that need fixing. They've needed fixing for a while now.

[Bordellimies]

Spoiler: Some kind of chart I made in few minutes (click to show/hide)

I'd say Sejuani is at "Freeweek, Champion is not played much and is only seen rarely". She'll probably become FOTM when a streamer plays her or if she gets buffs.

[Errol]

Sejuani is very much like Amumu, just with a bit of an unique spin towards ganking power/jungle stability, away from teamfight dominance somewhat. It is only natural that you rarely see her, as you could just play Amumu.

I look forward to her free week though.