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[RedKing]

As someone who plays a lot of support, I'd have to agree that there needs to be a synergy between the pair. I was playing as Kayle last night, and paired with a pretty timid Master Yi. Without voice comms, I don't have time to type, "go balls out, I got your back" especially when it comes to tower diving. Eventually I switched to top lane with a very aggressive Volibear and we rocked the Casbah together. Because I tend to play heal-support rather than CC, so my style is to focus on 'my buddy' and keep them alive and buffed at all costs.

As a followup to that, who's the strongest healer champ? I know Soraka is a better pure healer than Kayle, but I like Kayle's mix of heal+buff and attack+debuff. Plus dat invuln shield.

[Sirian]

Or maybe there's people who want their support to do all the harassing for them while they just sit back and farm. So he wants Zilean or Nidalee and would be pretty pissed with Soraka.

Soraka ? Infuse is a pretty nice harass, having a low cd, nice damage, no mana cost and a bonus silence. The only times i can't harass with it is when my lanemate takes constant damage and i have to heal him all the time and refill my mana with infuse instead of harassing. Sometimes you can harass with an infuse+starcall+autoattack combo, take no damage and remove a good 1/4 of someone's hp bar. Of course that's not as much damage as zilean's bombs or nidalee's spears but still nice.

[umiman]

Also umiman, it seems like support gp is #1 best ally for you.

No hard CC.  GP support works though, so I hear.

Sirian: Soraka and Sona's harass are the same. Super effective for like... the first 4 levels... then falls off really hard. Compare this with Zilean whose double bombs can take off half of someone's hp at level 4. It's a completely different level of harass I think. Though I'm sure if Sona or Soraka wanted to, they could scale Q first and probably do the same.

[Errol]

I, as an avid Leona player, should really queue more with Umi

[Nilocy]

Support Xerath. Wait in bush, stun all day.

[webadict]

Support Xerath. Wait in bush, stun all day.

More like "Wait in bush, hit things on other side of the map all day."

[ECrownofFire]

I wonder though, how well would support Anivia do?

Walls are very helpful in competent hands.

[penguinofhonor]

Support Xerath. Wait in bush, stun all day.

One skillshot-dependent CC and no other support abilities? You are now playing Janna, except with only one ability.

Not to mention his absurd AP scaling (the best in the game). That's a lot of wasted potential.

[Errol]

Not to mention his absurd AP scaling (the best in the game). That's a lot of wasted potential.

I demand Maths and comparisons to Malzahar/Cassiopeia/Rumble. Gogo

[Jopax]

Umi did it, even before he was out I think.


Another idea, Taric and Xera, ultimate zoning (aside from Urgot/Zil), get in range of either one of them and you are pretty much dead :>

[eerr]

Support gp may work, but it can't dislodge sona/trist when said trist and sona can kill either you or Vayne in one burst.

[umiman]

This was what I said when he first came out. :3

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Okay, let's see. Right off the bat his passive looks dumb. 15% of total AP to armour is silly as hell. It'll take 300 AP for him to get 45 armour. If you start with 30 AP, you get an extra 4.5 armour. Whoop de freaking do. I guess it could be worse but armour on a super long distance artillery is... errr.... it's really dumb.

His Q looks really scary. With 40% CDR, that Q is on a 3 second cooldown. Combined with mage boots and his w (and 9 in offense mastery), that's an extra ~55% damage (it scales multiplicatively and I can't be arsed to do the math) and even greater range. Maaaan.... I dont want to fight that.

His W is his W. What concerns me is the 30% spellpen. If you look at the base damages of his spells, that's some Annie level nuke right there. Seriously. Like Annie he has 3 abilities that can do damage and scale with AP. His ratios are similar to her too. He can actually do MORE damage than Annie at level 6 if he lands all three Rs. So, that combined with a gigantic amount of passive spellpen AND huge range is... well... it's gonna hurt.

His E is where I see some severe problems appear. This is basically a direct target stun with enormous range. Think about it logically.... you WILL get stunned by him. How can you juke his Q and all his Rs? He'd have to be a really crappy player. The problem is the huge range. If I'm not mistaken, the range of his E is equivalent to Morgana's maximum distance dark binding. Except that isn't a stun and has a long travel time (nor is it direct target). This is a lot scarier as it's like a hyper long range Sion. I really don't think that can be good in any way.

In fact.... I think you could actually max his E first and scale Q second. An instant target 300 damage nuke seems far scarier than his Q.

His ultimate... well... let's just say he only needs to hit two of them to exceed Tibbers damage. Again, with ridiculous range and half the cooldown.

[webadict]

I think the reason not a lot of people play him is because it requires pretty good skillshots and major map awareness. That means in order to compensate for the amount of wards you'd want to have, your AP ratios are simply off the charts. Question is, how many wards would it take?

[ansontan2000]

None. Try playing Teemo with a Xerath on your team. Watch the fireworks.

[webadict]

None. Try playing Teemo with a Xerath on your team. Watch the fireworks.

Well, Teemo mushrooms are nice, but they have less vision and lose sight when an enemy hits one. Though, I guess a little sight is all Xerath needs.