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[Untelligent]

It would be pretty cool to have dwarves that disappear do so from the player's perspective as well. For instance, If a dwarf had his own supply of food/ drink down where he was digging, but he himself was never seen by any of the other dwarves, and therefore by you. you only notice that he's still alive because the stockpile he's using slowly goes down in qty.  Concerned for your dwarf, you could send down the militia, who discovers him digging away, revealing him to the player.

overall, regardless of whether or not this could happen, having dwarves disappear in general is a great idea.

This idea, while interesting, could get sort of complicated. What if he has a few buddy miners down there who stay with him but the group never gets seen by other dwarves?

[penguify]

Ignore, it's pretty obvious what the answer is, I'm not sure why I asked it, in retrospect.

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Would I be correct to assume that if the sheriff is the one doing the crimes, he'll work to cover them up, and the fortress will be pretty much screwed? If so, that is incredibly cool.

[darkflagrance]

As long as worldgenn'd vampires can convert my normal dwarves into vampires, I won't mind a few turning into corpses in the process

As for the concerns with childsnatching interacting with dwarves going "missing" referenced in the dev log, the child could go "missing" the moment it is snatched, but the player is not notified unless he specifically runs a check through on the list of dwarves. This simulates the sending out of alerts through the dwarven community to search for missing children; only when the child reaches the edge is the snatched alert sent. This might even make dealing with childsnatching more interesting.

[Cruxador]

How will vampire blood and the eventual potion system interact? Will a draught of blood be prepared like a potion and dwarves will choose to drink it or not on the same system? Do you picture doing anything special there when you eventually implement this stuff?

[Dae]

Now, if only you had a sheriff with not much respect to authority and honor not accusing his close friends and relative for crimes they commit, THAT would be awesome. It would also be the very first independant choice of a dwarf.
Quickly followed by the sheriff blackmailing rich, guilty people for covering them up. Quickly followed by the sheriff blackmailing rich, innocent people for NOT accusing them. Not-quite-quickly followed by rich people orchestrating a most unfortunate occurence to your sheriff. Fun times !

[GreatWyrmGold]

I have a few questions inspired by your mention of historical migrants:

1. Are all migrants historical figures, or are they still mostly generated on-the-spot?

2. What happens when your civ runs out of citizens? Or do historical migrants stop genning before then?

3. If something like the famous Cacame Apebalded incident happened, could you get elf migrants?
3b. I suppose this would count for non-dwarven adventurers as well.

4. Can the monarch migrate to your fortress if it houses most/all of the civ's population? (Which would require massive worldgen wars or something, but how unlikely is that?)

5. If that happened, would it count as a bug or an unintended feature? I can't imagine a monarch wanting to live in the Mountainhome after everyone else there is living at Fortressmurders or wherever.

#3 and possibly 2 and 5 might be kinda obvious, but I'm still interested.

(Okay, 5 might be a bit more than a few, but still...)

[Neonivek]

I have a few questions inspired by your mention of historical migrants:

1. Are all migrants historical figures, or are they still mostly generated on-the-spot?

2. What happens when your civ runs out of citizens? Or do historical migrants stop genning before then?

3. If something like the famous Cacame Apebalded incident happened, could you get elf migrants?
3b. I suppose this would count for non-dwarven adventurers as well.

4. Can the monarch migrate to your fortress if it houses most/all of the civ's population? (Which would require massive worldgen wars or something, but how unlikely is that?)

5. If that happened, would it count as a bug or an unintended feature? I can't imagine a monarch wanting to live in the Mountainhome after everyone else there is living at Fortressmurders or wherever.

#3 and possibly 2 and 5 might be kinda obvious, but I'm still interested.

(Okay, 5 might be a bit more than a few, but still...)

1) Mostly generated on the spot. It just occasionally takes a historical figure now.

2) Age doesn't happen in game unless they enter active play. So your Civ cannot run out of citizens while your playing your fortress.

3)

4) Not currently

5) Bug

[Footkerchief]

I have a few questions inspired by your mention of historical migrants:

1. Are all migrants historical figures, or are they still mostly generated on-the-spot?

2. What happens when your civ runs out of citizens? Or do historical migrants stop genning before then?

3. If something like the famous Cacame Apebalded incident happened, could you get elf migrants?
3b. I suppose this would count for non-dwarven adventurers as well.

4. Can the monarch migrate to your fortress if it houses most/all of the civ's population? (Which would require massive worldgen wars or something, but how unlikely is that?)

5. If that happened, would it count as a bug or an unintended feature? I can't imagine a monarch wanting to live in the Mountainhome after everyone else there is living at Fortressmurders or wherever.

#3 and possibly 2 and 5 might be kinda obvious, but I'm still interested.

(Okay, 5 might be a bit more than a few, but still...)

Cruxador already gave very complete answers to your questions when you asked them in the thread you posted to ask them.

[Osmosis Jones]

I have a few questions inspired by your mention of historical migrants:

-snip-

Cruxador already gave very complete answers to your questions when you asked them in the thread you posted to ask them.

Ironically, he posted that question thread after this one, and the very first post told him to post them here.

Now, as for an important question;

Did you get Scamps a halloween costume?

[DG]

I hesitate to pile on questions but these are mostly yes/no ones. Hopefully they haven't been asked and answered while I wasn't looking.

Will it be possible that a member of the starting seven is a vampire before embark? Will vampires check the population of a fort before emigrating? Can another vampire come to a fort if one is already present? Will the lying skill be used for claims and counter-claims of vampirism and will it provide skill xp? If unmasked do vampires have an option between fleeing off map and fighting to the death (their own or the forts)?

The following is for us to discuss and not suggestions veiled as whatever, promise.

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If the starting seven can't be vampires they become fairly important individuals when it comes to testimony against others. You'll know for sure that they at least aren't themselves vampires, and then you just have to worry whether they are falsely accusing another because they hold a grudge, or if they have a propensity to lying, which are both easily checked. Currently I believe dwarves either can or can't lie depending on known personality traits, rather than how it is for us where eveybody lies at least some of the time, if only by what degree and in what circumstance and for what motive. If the starting seven can't be vampires and a vampire emigrates in the first migrant wave of 3 dwarves (you're a slow starter maybe) it wouldn't take very long for it to be found out. Which may not worry the vampire if it's just using your fort as a stepping stone to a more permanent home somewhere else. If more than one vampire can be in a fort it could be interesting. You'd arrest who you thought was the vampire but the killings continue so you release the accused without realizing that you were right the first time and it was the second vampire that was still killing people.

[zwei]

If the starting seven can't be vampires they become fairly important individuals when it comes to testimony against others.

That assumens that one of them was not converted to vampire later by imigrating vampire. Ideally, right after first wave.

[DG]

*blinks* Very good point. I forgot about the whole conversion possibility. That would be pretty cool.

[Neonivek]

If the starting seven can't be vampires they become fairly important individuals when it comes to testimony against others.

That assumens that one of them was not converted to vampire later by imigrating vampire. Ideally, right after first wave.

Well if the starting 7 included a Vampire... they probably wouldn't have survived the trip... that would have taken a week tops.

[zwei]

If the starting seven can't be vampires they become fairly important individuals when it comes to testimony against others.

That assumens that one of them was not converted to vampire later by imigrating vampire. Ideally, right after first wave.

Well if the starting 7 included a Vampire... they probably wouldn't have survived the trip... that would have taken a week tops.

That really depends on flavor of vampire.

For example vampires from J.Kulhanek books only drink about once a month and prefer cold (fish) blood over warm and absolutelly detest human blood (because it tastes bad).

They also have no trouble with sunlight and wield katanas and smgs.

[thedrelle]

This idea, while interesting, could get sort of complicated. What if he has a few buddy miners down there who stay with him but the group never gets seen by other dwarves?

I agree, where do you draw the line?. How many dwarves can disappear at a time?

what also might be awesome is a mood where the dwarf in question wanders off to the cave system below. have this happen only after you open one of the caves. have them ignore locked doors. they run into the caves and disappear from your view.