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[LakatosI]

I'm fairly new to the game, I started playing this January with a couple of longer pauses in-between. Browsing the wiki I discovered a page which described dwarven economy in the older versions, how you just had to build rooms and dwarves automatically occupied them, etc... Why was this taken out?! It sounds so insanely useful. I can't stand the thought of manually asigning rooms to my dwarves, especially when my population slowly reaches +150
Is there some workaround to get economy back? How do you deal with assigning rooms?

[urick]

Dwarfs still take rooms automatically, they just don't have to pay for them..

[Silophant]

It was taken out because it didn't really work. Most dwarves wouldn't earn enough money to afford even the most basic room, so you had to fill your fortress with tiny 1X1 rooms with rough rock walls or find your dwarves unhappily sleeping on the floor. In addition, your dwarves had to pay to eat once the economy went in, so you'd find your stockpiles filling with masterful roasts that no one can afford to eat. And then if you were foolish enough to mint coins...

[Spish]

Just highlight the bed with Q, turn it into a bedroom, and assign it to whatever dwarf you want to use it. You'll be able to keep up with it easily if you assign them as the migrants arrive.

Or you could just draft them into the military and they'll automatically use beds in the barracks.

[Necro910]

I just keep the economy off, and make everyone sleep in an *engraved* room with x20 studded/decorated beds. Keeps everyone high.

[Veetor]

If you press Q, go to a bed, make a room, the next dwarf that sleeps in it will automatically become the new owner, no need to assign individually.

[Nasikabatrachus]

Isn't there an option to turn the economy on in the current version? I remember reading that somewhere.

[Necro910]

Isn't there an option to turn the economy on in the current version? I remember reading that somewhere.

It's in the init.

[Sphalerite]

It's in the init, but it doesn't work.  It's supposed to be tied to the arrival of the Tax Collector, but immigrant nobles never arrive, and even if you mod the entity raws to make them manually assignable, they don't do the special jobs they're supposed to.  So, the Economy never gets enabled.

The problem with the way the Economy worked was that there was no modeling of supply and demand whatsoever.  The price of housing was fixed by the value of the room, even if no dwarf on the map could afford to stay there, so it was easy to have a fortress full of homeless dwarves and empty rooms.  The price of food was also fixed, and if you went in for any kind of high-value prepared meal production it was easy to have stockpiles of masterwork roasts sitting uneaten while all your dwarves gnawed cold plump helmets.  It also didn't help that individual dwarves had no clue whatsoever how to make intelligent purchases, and would randomly opt to buy silk loincloths from the last goblin invasion and then get evicted for not paying rent.  Admittedly, that last one accurately reflects some people's real-world purchasing habits.

The point is that in DF the main result of activating the economy was that most of your dwarves would be unhappy and many of the usual happiness-increasing measures (nice rooms, fine goods, masterwork roasts) would become unavailable to them.

[slink]

And even if you set the room rent to zero, they got evicted when their bank balance went negative.  It did that when they ate a cold plump helmet they couldn't afford.

[Syrup Roast]

But don't legendaries get their rooms and other stuff for free?

TO THE PUMP GYM!!

[Number7]

i have an old copy of 40d, i feel like rushing to the economy for lulz.

juuust once. (cause i never got to it before lol)

[jomen]

Any idea of when economy would get back? I hope it will come soon

[dwarfhoplite]

I think Df economy shouldn't model today's world. DF is a medieval game and should therefore have medieval economy such as feudalism

[Naz]

The economy is probably pretty far down the development line, somewhere after armies and caravans. Probably a good thing too, in 40d it was unbelievably broken.