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[zarokima]

I'm re-designing the entryway to my current fort, and every time I designate a constructed floor tile to be removed, the dwarf doing so stands on the side that gets disconnected. I have tried assigning a wall to be built on that side and suspending the order how you're supposed to for building constructions, but apparently that doesn't work when removing them. I tried setting the area to restricted hoping the movement penalty would dissuade them, but it did not. This floor tile has been remove and replaced at least a dozen times already, so I'm fairly certain it's not just a fluke. What do I do?

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[darkflagrance]

Build an actual wall or statue where the dwarf is standing and then deconstruct the floor tile?

[tolkafox]

Dwarves don't stand where you designate walls to be built, and walls won't get built if you suspend them.

[Starver]

And, if nothing else, don't forget that dwarves have a bias as to which direction they want to stand to accomplish various off-tile jobs.  (With the last resort being "on the tile", where the job allows.)  This is why the dwarves consistently stand in the wrong place, in your example.

If your example was flipped east-west, you'd probably not have the problem.  In the absence of the possibility to actually flip your entire map around, though, it might be worth considering that North is preferred over South and West is preferred over East.  (And all orthogonal directions preferred over all diagonals, where diagonal working is permissible, the later ordering similarly according to their mismatching constituents.)

But the others have the short answer.  Set to build (then suspend) a wall on the spot being currently insisted upon.  That'll sort this situation out.

[Saiko Kila]

Here's a picture of the problem:

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What is under that question mark? A solid floor?

EDIT: If he can access it it must be solid floor not a ramp. Then building a statue or floodgate will do.

[CapnUrist]

The statue is the best way to go if the suspended wall trick isn't working. However, if I may, what is it you're planning on doing after removing that floor area? Walling it in, or something else?

[zarokima]

Here's a picture of the problem:

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What is under that question mark? A solid floor?

Whoops, should have taken a better screenshot. Yeah, under that is another constructed floor that can be reached from the ramp to the right, and immediately under that is another slope.

Dwarves don't stand where you designate walls to be built, and walls won't get built if you suspend them.

And, if nothing else, don't forget that dwarves have a bias as to which direction they want to stand to accomplish various off-tile jobs.  (With the last resort being "on the tile", where the job allows.)  This is why the dwarves consistently stand in the wrong place, in your example.

If your example was flipped east-west, you'd probably not have the problem.  In the absence of the possibility to actually flip your entire map around, though, it might be worth considering that North is preferred over South and West is preferred over East.  (And all orthogonal directions preferred over all diagonals, where diagonal working is permissible, the later ordering similarly according to their mismatching constituents.)

But the others have the short answer.  Set to build (then suspend) a wall on the spot being currently insisted upon.  That'll sort this situation out.

The suspended wall thing seems to only apply to building stuff rather than deconstructing it, since as I stated in the OP it isn't working here.

Build an actual wall or statue where the dwarf is standing and then deconstruct the floor tile?

The statue is the best way to go if the suspended wall trick isn't working. However, if I may, what is it you're planning on doing after removing that floor area? Walling it in, or something else?

I thought about doing that, but I'm planning to re-route part of a nearby river through to make a waterfall along the main entry way. I didn't plan ahead well enough and constructed the entrance in the path of the future-waterway, so I brought down and extended that portion of the entrance. The water will go through the area where the dwarf is now, and a stray wall sticking out there would mess it up. Though now that I think about it a bit more, I realize I can just clean up that unneeded floor (and then replace it with a wall as planned) while digging out the waterway.

[Triaxx2]

Manually designate one section at a time. Best way for this situation.

[Reelyanoob]

What works for me, if you don't mind cutting some of the terrain is this :-

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Dig where the X's are, for an escape tunnel then wall off the X's starting with the left one. I usually only make these escape-tunnels rarely, and only once someone get's stuck (or is clearly about to)

[Psieye]

Build a Support or Bridge there, rig it up to a lever. Now you have a way to make an obstacle when the dwarf is removing the floor, then you can get rid of that obstacle when it's time for your waterfall.

[nomad_delta]

Build a Support or Bridge there, rig it up to a lever. Now you have a way to make an obstacle when the dwarf is removing the floor, then you can get rid of that obstacle when it's time for your waterfall.

Man, I love the crazy contortions we go through to try to prevent our dwarves from doing obviously stupid things. 

[zarokima]

Build a Support or Bridge there, rig it up to a lever. Now you have a way to make an obstacle when the dwarf is removing the floor, then you can get rid of that obstacle when it's time for your waterfall.

HA! This is brilliant, thanks.