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Author Topic: You guys are the smartest people I know, I need your help :win7  (Read 3943 times)

Smackinjuice

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So, I have 2 partitions, D, and C; I noticed in win7 partition manager that D was my primary boot.  This was strange I said, because D only has a 800 mb windows folder; and i SWEAR I installed win7 to my C drive.

So I changed my primary to C; now i believe this caused the problem, but just for shits and giggles let's pretend I deleted NTLDR somehow on a mystic carpet ride.

So now my computer starting up says, can't find NTLDR, hit Ctr,Del, and ALT to restart.

I have a cd drive on this computer, and am using asus express gate right now to post this.  I ALSO have a lap top with a cd burner, and am getting Knoppix CD version downloading right now, will be done in 1 hour 15 minutes from this time (11:30 Alaskan time, sorry I forget the GMT).

I also have an Ipod, that has windows 7 on it; I had to use my laptop DvD drive to extract it and I put the back up on my USB to put onto my computer, that's how I installed win7.  Although it doesn't seem to let me boot from it (maybe I have to put contents of win7 in the initial ipod folder? nm, i'll figure it out).

Why am I posting here? cause despite not posting that much anymore, i still come here and read what you guys post.  And any where on the net, this is seriously the most helpful forum in the world.  And to play dwarf fortress requires an iq at einsteins level.  So if you have any knowledge of this, please help.  Anyhting would help, and remember in an hour I will have linux and I'm 99% sure I'll just boot with that and get the fix myself; but maybe it's not that easy? or you guys know a faster way.

Thank you SO MUCH for any helpful ideas.

UPDATE I DID NOT DELETE MY NTLDR I just changed my partition and have to get back to loading up D
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 04:03:20 pm by Smackinjuice »
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Thank you SO MUCH for any helpful ideas, even if they don't work I will send you my GF's boobs without her knowing....

On ice I assume?  They'll spoil in transit if they're not in an icebox.
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Can i get her attached to them? :P

Sounds like you deleted the Ghost drive Windows 7 makes for recovery, you're gonna have to reinstall the OS again.

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I will assume that you have the opportunity to enter BIOS, do this, find BOOT priority, and put drive C: into it.

If this doesn't work, use BIOS to make drive D: you Primary again and stop messing with the PC.
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That [Magma] is a bit deep down there, don't you think?
You really aren't thinking like a dwarf.

If you think it is down too far, you move it up until it reaches an acceptable elevation.

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Insert the Windows 7 DVD or USB drive. There should be a repair on it for stuff like NTLDR and the master boot record.

If you don't have a Windows 7 DVD, just pirate an ISO. Your PC doesn't work, who gives a shit.
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Yep, you broke it.  But honestly, this wasn't your first mistake.
"Boot partition" does not refer to where Windows is located, but where the MBR is located, which is, in your case, D.
The MBR should always be on the first logical partition (0), whereas you apparently installed Windows on the second (1), causing their order to get flipped in Windows (because the lettered naming conventions are awkward that way), causing this confusion.
I wouldn't know anything about fixing it, because this isn't a situation in which putting things back to the way they were (fixing the mess you just caused) is the recommended solution.
While I know this is not the ideal solution, I'm suggesting you reformat and get the partitions right this time.
This will have the added bonus of speeding up Windows boot times slightly, because the front of the physical drive is faster for seek times.
TL;DR: Don't go poking around changing your partition ANY settings unless you know what the consequences are.

Sounds like you deleted the Ghost drive Windows 7 makes for recovery, you're gonna have to reinstall the OS again.
No such thing.  Period.  Only OEM manufacturers do that, because they always like to install stuff you don't need, and for dumb people or whatever.
I will assume that you have the opportunity to enter BIOS, do this, find BOOT priority, and put drive C: into it.

If this doesn't work, use BIOS to make drive D: you Primary again and stop messing with the PC.
If it's complaining about the bootloader being missing, boot priority is anything but the problem.
Boot priority is also not what he screwed up in the partition manager.

E: Unless it also created a broken MBR on the other partition..  But that would just make things even more troublesome, so I stand by reformatting.
Insert the Windows 7 DVD or USB drive. There should be a repair on it for stuff like NTLDR and the master boot record.
That's possible, I guess.  But I would still recommend a reformat, if only to right the original wrong as I mentioned above.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 03:09:47 pm by Jay »
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Ok UPDATE

I know for a FACT now that I did NOT delete my NTLDR; i just have to get my D drive to be the primary boot

I have Asus as a bios; but i got to be honesty my "dos skills" are lacking now.  Anyone know the commands or what to do? feel free to be techy as possible I do know how to do a lot of stuff off "cmd".

I mean i'm not amazing, but i know how to do stuff so yeah :D
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 03:48:22 pm by Smackinjuice »
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Reported.

Good luck with your computer problem.
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Woh! why is this reported? by chance because of bribing with pictures? in which case i'm removing right now.

Sorry guys no more naughty pictures for helping me.

Honestly I really don't want to do anything that's not ok on these forums; I love this place ok.

and next time if you report someone; give them a reason please, cause honestly that was my guess to why I was reported (and it makes sense :D)
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Bauglir

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While I probably ought not speak for Vector, I can almost guarantee you that was the reason. Also, I'm kind of surprised it took till the 7th reply for somebody to object to that. And not surprised in a good way.

EDIT: Also this is the second time today Vector's beaten me to doing something. Clearly, she's taken a level of Ninja. Or possibly Swordsage...[/lame]

FURTHER EDIT: To be productive, I would second the reformatting suggestion. From the sound of it, you may have passed a point of no return.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2011, 03:51:51 pm by Bauglir »
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

Smackinjuice

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Sigh, what kind of world do we live in where we can't make payments with naughty pics of our gf's (ROFL)

honestly I'd report me too, but I was saying that in more of a joking way anyhow; honestly whoever helped me would of got to see some cleavage; no nudity lol.

But forget it, anyhow moving on; all I need to do is change my boot partition; that's it and everything will be fixed.  I can try using knoppix cause it's almost done downloading, or i can make a boot disk that would allow me to choose my partition (they have them, but i don't know of any that is updated for windows7; xp is the newest I can find; probably a vista would work).

Or I can get my USB to detect my windows 7 disc; but for some reason it's not noticing it; any clue as to why? is it because I need the boot file to be on the main sector (like say D is my ipod; have the boot files all on that; not within a folder).

Also I'm not surprised it took 7 replies to report something someone did not like, I mean this is the internet; it's made up of 60% of porno rofl.
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it's made up of 60% of porno rofl.

Google says it's less than 5%
Considering the existence of 'google scholar'; I can believe that.
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That [Magma] is a bit deep down there, don't you think?
You really aren't thinking like a dwarf.

If you think it is down too far, you move it up until it reaches an acceptable elevation.

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Re: You guys are the smartest people I know, I need your help :win7
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2011, 04:05:57 pm »

according to healthy mind.com

http://healthymind.com/s-porn-stats.html

ex Industry Statistics

    * $57.0 billion revenue world-wide1
    * $12.0 billion of this is US revenue, more than all combined revenues of all professional football, baseball and basketball franchises or the combined revenues of ABC, CBS, and NBC (6.2 billion). $2.5 of the $12 billion is related to internet porn.1

     

Porn on the Web

    * 25% of total search engine requests are porn-related. (Top three searches: sex, mp3 and hotmail.)2
    * 8% of total emails are porn-related. Average daily pornographic emails are 4.5 per internet user1
    * 12% of total websites are pornographic1

I made up my statistic about the amount that is online... much like all statistics they are usually made up on the spot :D

But enough of this;  i don't want to get reported again

So lets get back to my problem, i need to put a cd into my computer that will allow me to choose my boot partition :D
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Bauglir

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I should really drop this, but what surprised me wasn't an offer of nudity, and what offends me about your post is the extent to which you're treating your girlfriend's chest as a commodity to be traded for tech support. The presence or absence of nipples isn't really the point.

It's probably not against the forum rules if there wasn't going to be nudity, so the report probably won't come to anything (but the way you posted it made it seem like there would be, so the report was probably justified). Doesn't mean that makes it significantly better for you to have done in a moral sense, though. You still have to be rather a jackass to offer to send pictures of somebody you ostensibly care about without her knowledge.

Because I am a nice guy, though, I know that installing Ubuntu (the only Linux distro I've used) also installs GRUB 2.0, which should allow you to choose your boot partition at startup. There is also a program for Windows that works similarly, and once you've got it working you may want to find it since Windows tends to overwrite GRUB whenever it does a major update (or so I'm told). Can't recall what the program is, but googling something about dual-booting Windows 7 and ubuntu should turn up useful links.
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In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
“What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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Sigh, what kind of world do we live in where we can't make payments with naughty pics of our gf's (ROFL)

honestly I'd report me too, but I was saying that in more of a joking way anyhow; honestly whoever helped me would of got to see some cleavage; no nudity lol.

[...]

Also I'm not surprised it took 7 replies to report something someone did not like, I mean this is the internet; it's made up of 60% of porno rofl.

You want to know why I reported you?

I'm a woman with a short temper, and I don't like it when people pay for technical information with their girlfriends' bodies, especially without their knowledge and express consent.  I am not a commodity, and neither is she.  I don't give a crap whether you're paying with breasts, feet, or earwax.  She isn't currency.

If you're going to trot out that old, tired "well, this is the internet, and what do you expect?" argument, I'll just say this:

I expect better.
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"The question of the usefulness of poetry arises only in periods of its decline, while in periods of its flowering, no one doubts its total uselessness." - Boris Pasternak

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pronouns: prefer neutral ones, others are fine. height: 5'3".
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