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[choobakka]

You know, even if there's a spot for background or appearance, people just leave those blank most of the time. But I agree that I prefer simpler rules in an RTD.

[adwarf]

I have everything worked out on my character sheet that I can get is it alright that both demeanor, and nature is survivor?

[Darvi]

Shouldn't y'all wait until the actual game has started? And anyways that whole reserving thing is stupid anyway imo.

[adwarf]

I was just asking if that would work, and how is reservign for something you want to do stupid?

[Dermonster]

People who don't watch this thread don't ever get a chance to join?

[SeriousConcentrate]

Well, it's really a matter of preference. If I can't get into my character I lose interest in playing as him/her. If I'm told to fill out only a job without even being able to give my character a name, I'm not interested at all, and I doubt other players would want to type out SeriousConcentrate every time they wanted to refer to me; much easier on everyone if we can all just agree that in this thread I'm Bob. It's quicker to type, for one thing. Other than that I don't mind if it's the standard d6 or something else altogether, for the most part. I'm not going to yell at you for preferring simple rules, man. ^^

[Darvi]

People who don't watch this thread don't ever get a chance to join?

That, and all the "Reserved" posts kinda flood the thread.

[Tarran]

Whatever happened to those rtd's where people just picked up skill as they went along, the story was decent, the humor was fantastic, and there was no need for overcomplicated crap (such as backgrounds, appearances, age, and names) at the start?

People got tired of them and decided they wanted more stuff? If you really have a problem with it, CREATE A GAME YOURSELF! Seriously, you're not making the games, don't complain. If you want to start or change a trend, do it yourself.

Seriously, theres no art, so appearances don't matter (usually), backgrounds don't really have that great an impact unless it's really specific on focusing on it,, ages are superfluous (EVERYONE IS 23!) and names just make it confusing as to who is who.

The art is more of a problem of the GMs, the appearences are pointless but sometimes people like to fill them in, background helps with roleplaying, ages help with roleplaying, and yes, names are confusing, but... does it really make sense in a story for someone like, say, L33tHaxx0r to use his own name in the game? No, it doesn't, it makes no sense why ANYONE in the would would ever name their son L33tHaxx0r. Names are more of a choice. They're completely optional in most games since you can just put your own username down.

I just want to see something where I can say 'In' and nothing else, except for maybe a class or a job or something, do awesome things, laugh, and be told a good story in the process.

Then okay, good for you.

Maybe my standards got warped. I dunno. I know i can't expect every RTD to be a wonderful paradise of epic storytelling and laughs.

Yeah, sometimes GMs (like me) just have a really hard time telling story or don't want to. And there are plenty of good story RTDs, it's just that the GMs tend to be the ones with character sheets you don't like. It's a choice: Great but complex RTDs, or bland but simple RTDs.

Or maybe the ones I really am interested in come out in the middle of the night or when I cant otherwise get one of the starting positions

Yeah, that tends to happen. Can't help you on that.

Because seriously, there's like maybe one or two deaths, tops, in the first hundred turns. And even then there's always someone ahead of you in the waiting list. And then it dies. I don't even bother most times.

The reason why the games die is one of several things:
The GM's life gets worse. Completely unavoidable.
The GM makes it too complex. Newbie mistake, let them fail one or two RTDs and they'll learn. Just like I have (mostly).
The GM just doesn't find it fun anymore. Completely unavoidable. Sometimes the GM just... well, can't find the interest.
The players just don't find it fun anymore. Avoidable if the players shout out their concerns and also if they try to make it interesting when it's not. Also, the GM must also try his/her best to give them something to do.
There may be more reasons, but I can't think of them right now.

PPE: 8 ninjas? >_>

[SeriousConcentrate]

Sometimes the GM just... well, can't find the interest.

Speaking of that, I'm thinking about scrapping Cerberus IV. Problem there is I left it far too open and with only two players (Dwarmin & Tarran) actually doing something to move the plot along (and unable to do anything else for a number of turns, with the other four unable to do the same mission since it's already started) I'm basically just killing time for 2/3rds of the people in it. I'll probably get rid of it so I can focus on RtASL and CvRTD until I complete the latter, then try starting up something reasonably simple like Roll to Dodge a Song or Roll to Die.

[Taricus]

Wait, there was a plot in it?

[SeriousConcentrate]

Build up a mercenary company, advance to the high technology cities, leave the planet, slowly but surely destroy the Algodal. Basically. There were other problems too, like Intelligence governing WTGM types of action (which I guess is why Fallout had Perception as well >.>) and a lack of GM foresight. I think Dwarmin also basically took the bare bones of my system and improved it, so if I used it again I would take a close look at how he's using it and try to emulate that.

[Tarran]

Awww, oh well.

Anyway, I didn't notice any real plot in it. I had no idea you were planning for us to be mercs. You literally gave us no clear goals as far as I could tell.

[V-Norrec]

I'm going to wait for irony's suggestion, but now I have a couple of ideas I want to run, curses too many good ideas at once.

Fakeedit:  I usually use the name Sareesa for females, and Viscoth Norrec for males.  Guess how I got my name lol.

[Taricus]

@SC: Mercenary companies take a lot of money to fund.

You could rewrite the firearms bonus so that it has a reliability stat, which is a stat of the weapon itself then add in relevant stats for it. so:

Heavy weaponry = STR (Due to recoil)
Small arms (Including bows): AGI/DEX

[Dermonster]

"Warning Four Five SEVEN EIGHT new replies have been posted since you stopped editing your post"

Spoiler: BLUH MORE STUFF, HOPEFULLY THE LAST ONE. (click to show/hide)

It just seems like the whole RTD system is heading closer and closer to the point where it might become a glorified DnD substitute. I'm not saying that background of a char should be entirely omitted. You can have a name if you want to. It just seems like its getting to the point where RTD is becoming a little more simple clone of DnD. Its supposed to be a MUCH simpler clone.

I guess the upshot of all this is, I would much like the focus to be getting started with a minimal of fuss so all the effort can go to the IN GAME stuff. The 1-6 system is fine as it is, if you just make the bonuses somewhat rare and the overshoots sometimes negative. Maybe make is a 1-10, or a 1-12 system.

I should probably shut up now.

@Tarran Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it muchly. I was actually thinking of starting a Multiworld game over on the MSPA forums, them guys having no previous standards.

@SeriousConcentrate Roll to dodge a song is one of those things I really like but never really got a chance to play. At least, I think it was, If I'm remembering correctly. Wasn't it where you picked a song and got your character info from that?