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[Bellerophon]

Is water not flowing into a new area after melting if you dig or remove a wall whilst it's frozen a new bug?

[Beardless]

I'd really like the Toad to announce a 6+ month release-free dev arc of something awesome so we can go back to the 40d days... playing and dreaming.  Good times.

Nothing stopping you from playing as if that was really happening. I've actually been doing that since 31.12. And I expect my personal release-free dev arc to last another year or two.

(I'm also in denial. It'll be a year or two before I can afford a computer that can run the newer versions. )

[monk12]

I'd really like the Toad to announce a 6+ month release-free dev arc of something awesome so we can go back to the 40d days... playing and dreaming.  Good times.

Nothing stopping you from playing as if that was really happening. I've actually been doing that since 31.12. And I expect my personal release-free dev arc to last another year or two.

(I'm also in denial. It'll be a year or two before I can afford a computer that can run the newer versions. )

Actually, the last few releases have contained some FPS improvements. You might want to give the current version a brief test drive.

[Footkerchief]

Is water not flowing into a new area after melting if you dig or remove a wall whilst it's frozen a new bug?

Yes, definitely.  I can't find any existing reports, although it's kind of reminiscent of this bug.

[Malorn]

Has anyone else noticed that caverns are now ~20 levels below the surface?  Worldgen is set to have the standard 5 levels above cavern one, with three caverns.  Something seems wacky.

[monk12]

Has anyone else noticed that caverns are now ~20 levels below the surface?  Worldgen is set to have the standard 5 levels above cavern one, with three caverns.  Something seems wacky.

I believe that 5 is the minimum. I also believe that the number refers to the number of layers, not levels, and that many layers are more than a level thick. (I'm not as sure about that second fact as I am about the first)

That said, I feel like my embark has too few levels. Four to the top of the first cavern, eight to the bottom, and 13 to the magma (one cavern layer for me.) Of course, I suspect that this is related to the fact I embarked on a major river, something I normally don't do.

[Malorn]

Well, going by the wiki:

Z-Levels of stone above the first cavern layer. Making this higher will guarantee at least this many levels to build your fortress, but will have no impact on how many z-levels thick the surface layer is. Also, the top of a cavern may be higher than the rest of a cavern, so in practice there will be more levels than this.

That says Z-levels, and that doesn't mean layers I don't think.  I've altered the setting many times, and even when set to 7 or 8 have never had 20 z-levels between the lowest surface layer and the actual top of the cavern.  Using reveal and several tests, this seems to be consistent through my generated worlds.  It makes for a very different game, and positive or negative, I'm curious if anyone else has come across it.

It also seems as if the caverns themselves are stunted, compared to what I've encountered in the months since they were introduced.  Most caverns in these generated worlds are only ~4 z-levels from top to bottom.  However, why not ask Toady?

Would it be normal for LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1==5 to generate a world with consistently ~20 z-levels between the lowest point of the surface and the very top of the first cavern?  Is this possibly a bug, or intended?

[TomiTapio]

Alas, I submitted a worldgen-crash bug report. Genesis mod + tunings + chosen seed number.
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=4395
My questionable raws and settings at http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=4085
Edit: no crash if I remove my skin-only ghost creature. *sigh* modding is hard sometimes.

I think if you start on hilltop or other high place you might have 50-130 levels to dig down to magma sea. Usually (with minimum cave distances in worldgen settings) I get caves on -8 to -12. Second caves on -15 to 19.

The wiki says .19 introduced alluvial layers but I can't find them in .25's raws. http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Alluvial_layer

[SocietalEclipse]

Starting on a volcano I have 92 Z-levels from the top of my mountain range to the furthest extent down the volcano that was revealed upon embark.

[Xelanthol]

Any chance of getting the pickup equipment loop bug looked at? I don't know why but it seems really prevalent this version. It's hindering my military and my enjoyment

[StephanReiken]

Awesome, I look away for a few days and suddenly DF has 3 new versions out. Glad to see such bugfixes coming out quickly ^^.

[ottottott]

I check the forum at least once a day and I completely missed the last ..04 versions. Both of my favorite games have (an) awesome update(s) really (really) near my birthday. It's like a birthday present! Last year I got DF2010. Honestly, I don't even get as good presents from my relatives. I want to wait until Mike Mayday and Dwarf Therapist catch up though.

[agatharchides]

DT works with the most recent version

[TolyK]

DT works with the most recent version

thank you, LucasUP and I'll update the LNP when everything gets set.

[shibdib]

I'd really like the Toad to announce a 6+ month release-free dev arc of something awesome so we can go back to the 40d days... playing and dreaming.  Good times.

Nothing stopping you from playing as if that was really happening. I've actually been doing that since 31.12. And I expect my personal release-free dev arc to last another year or two.

(I'm also in denial. It'll be a year or two before I can afford a computer that can run the newer versions. )

Holy shit, how ghetto is your computer