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Author Topic: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)  (Read 40964 times)

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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #330 on: March 29, 2011, 11:15:32 am »

Even if you accept that a) homsexuality is caused by a specific gene which can be turned off and b) that it would be desirable to cure it... wouldn't there be, like, other genes to be concentrating on?  Like, maybe cystic fibrosis or something.

Although, if pushing the gene idea got homophobic groups to donate money to gene therapy research, then that could be a positive outcome :P.
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #331 on: March 29, 2011, 11:22:26 am »

Even if you accept that a) homsexuality is caused by a specific gene which can be turned off and b) that it would be desirable to cure it... wouldn't there be, like, other genes to be concentrating on?  Like, maybe cystic fibrosis or something.

Although, if pushing the gene idea got homophobic groups to donate money to gene therapy research, then that could be a positive outcome :P.
*shrugs* Honestly, I don't think touching my genes would make me less of a fag, unless of course they used genes to kill my lust. But then I'd be asexual, not heterosexual.
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #332 on: March 29, 2011, 11:25:57 am »

Still flourishing. There was even released an APP to Iphones that should help cure gays, Dunno how, but that Apple actually accepted(? Can't remember a better english word, certified?) it should speak lengths.
They did remove the app at least. After public outcry.

I usually try my best to understand people's positions, even if I vehemently disagree with them, but I really just don't get that kind of stuff. Why do they care?
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #333 on: March 29, 2011, 11:29:06 am »

Even if you accept that a) homsexuality is caused by a specific gene which can be turned off and b) that it would be desirable to cure it... wouldn't there be, like, other genes to be concentrating on?  Like, maybe cystic fibrosis or something.

Although, if pushing the gene idea got homophobic groups to donate money to gene therapy research, then that could be a positive outcome :P.
You expect people to care about medicine and progress when there's people around them that they fear? Generous. Though you may be on to something here. I'm not ashamed to admit I wouldn't mind a bit of spin on certain research if it got the opposition to help things along. This is why I'm an engineer at heart, not a scientist ;)
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #334 on: March 29, 2011, 11:31:15 am »

Still flourishing. There was even released an APP to Iphones that should help cure gays, Dunno how, but that Apple actually accepted(? Can't remember a better english word, certified?) it should speak lengths.
They did remove the app at least. After public outcry.

I usually try my best to understand people's positions, even if I vehemently disagree with them, but I really just don't get that kind of stuff. Why do they care?
Well.... Some people must think that gays are fundamentally wrong, so they have to cure them... And maybe some people just have an image of people, and how they should be...
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #335 on: March 29, 2011, 11:32:42 am »

It's like X-Men, just without the cool powers.
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #336 on: March 29, 2011, 11:37:41 am »

You expect people to care about medicine and progress when there's people around them that they fear? Generous. Though you may be on to something here. I'm not ashamed to admit I wouldn't mind a bit of spin on certain research if it got the opposition to help things along. This is why I'm an engineer at heart, not a scientist ;)
If you argued it well it could work.  Like, maybe...

1. Homosexuality, if genetic, would be a complex mix of a lot of different contributing genes.
2. Therefore it would be very hard to treat unless there's already a lot of groundwork on genetic therapy in place.
3. Therefore we should focus on curing simple genetic conditions (Huntingdon's, CF, sickle cell anaemia etc).
4. If we successfully cure those diseases, maybe one day there'll be a cure for homosexuality via this method.
5. So hey, want to donate to help us cure our diseases?

I certainly wouldn't agree with these groups, but if they put their money towards useful medical research it'd certainly be an improvement...
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #337 on: March 29, 2011, 11:41:05 am »

It's like X-Men, just without the cool powers.
Backwards. X-Men are like gays, only with cool powers. Isn't that canon or something?

I've always found that comparison to be strange. There is a legitimate reason to be afraid of people with crazy superpowers. I know I'd be nervous standing in line at a bank with a guy who could vaporize the building with a thought. Just like I'm a little nervous when my neighbor's kid fires his bb gun in the middle of the neighborhood.

However, I don't expect I'll ever come to harm because somebody is gay.
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #338 on: March 29, 2011, 11:42:40 am »

You expect people to care about medicine and progress when there's people around them that they fear? Generous. Though you may be on to something here. I'm not ashamed to admit I wouldn't mind a bit of spin on certain research if it got the opposition to help things along. This is why I'm an engineer at heart, not a scientist ;)
If you argued it well it could work.  Like, maybe...

1. Homosexuality, if genetic, would be a complex mix of a lot of different contributing genes.
2. Therefore it would be very hard to treat unless there's already a lot of groundwork on genetic therapy in place.
3. Therefore we should focus on curing simple genetic conditions (Huntingdon's, CF, sickle cell anaemia etc).
4. If we successfully cure those diseases, maybe one day there'll be a cure for homosexuality via this method.
5. So hey, want to donate to help us cure our diseases?

I certainly wouldn't agree with these groups, but if they put their money towards useful medical research it'd certainly be an improvement...
Please, you're arguing against people that view homosexuality as a threat. Are you really expecting LOGIC to work?

I'll tell them that I'm a lizard warrior from mars sent by Jesus to stop the homo threat and that I need money to buy turnip and redeem them from their sins. I bet I'll get more money than you.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 11:53:46 am by Phmcw »
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #339 on: March 29, 2011, 11:48:27 am »

Please, you're arguing against poeple
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Really, just ignore them.
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #340 on: March 29, 2011, 11:52:41 am »

you better argue with people, then, poeple are just too stubborn

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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #341 on: March 29, 2011, 11:58:34 am »

I'll tell them that I'm a lizard warrior from mars sent by Jesus to stop the homo threat and that I need money to buy turnip and redeem them from their sins. I bet I'll get more money than you.

I normally try to expect the realistic best from people... But I think Phmcw is right here...
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #342 on: March 29, 2011, 12:01:21 pm »

...I'm actually being extremely cynical here.  Note there's no appeal to help the people with diseases.  It's just "If you do this, you can help cure homosexuality once and for all!".
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #343 on: March 29, 2011, 12:02:47 pm »

I would like to fund genetic research to cure people who want to cure homosexuality.[/sarcasm]
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Re: What are your opinions on the "big issue" of today? (not a troll thread)
« Reply #344 on: March 29, 2011, 12:06:31 pm »

That's somewhat the point. Cure them of their money and give them a placebo in the form of the thought that they helped fund research that will cure homosexuality.
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