Extend this bullshit please. Oh, and Unvote. I doubt my post is going to do much unless that extension gets through. LNCP, if you're reading this, make sure that Orangebottle AND webadict have been online since this post (scum wouldn't want to extend, so make sure BOTH of them have been online). It'd be nice if you at least gave them a chance to extend after reading this.
Hahaha. You're so funny. If you want to make an argument, feel free to extend forever. It won't make you any less scum. Your argument has changed from let's vote the guy who votes me to let's vote the guy who votes me. Obviously, you don't really understand what it takes for someone to be scum. Of course, seeing as how I've just given you an extension, I am clearly not scum. That MUST mean no one is scum! Woah!
Jim:His first target(you) was picked by his predecessor. As for Crown and I, I believe I already understand why. But just to be sure...
Webadict: Why did you pick myself and Crown?
Well, I had a chance to change Jim, but I didn't. I figured the IC scan was more useful than normal.
I picked Crown because he was my second choice for scum (After King), and I figured King would get lynched, but if I found the other scum, then woohoo. And last Night there was really only one other person to pick, and really I was hoping that my claiming of Heliman being Town would sort of make Heliman a target. More of my shield than anything else. Plus, I already knew he was Town.
In spite of OrangeBottle's arguments, CrownofFire is the scum. Crown intends on buddying both the remaining players while simultaneously trying to shift Orange's gaze to me. He seems to take my claim at face value, while Orange is suspicious of both players, something that any player should be.
Orange isn't making a great attack, but he's actually trying to make one. The Too Townie argument is stupid, though.
Crown OMGUSes almost immediately, almost ignoring me with a small comment, but also taking the Cop claim as 100% true, meaning he knows I'm not lying, and therefore scum. He makes passive attacks about me and attempts to buddy his attacker in the same line ("Unless we both decide webadict's scum"). He makes no real attempt to scumhunt me, and is trying to not provoke me in any manner, either to make sure I don't become emotionally charged to attack him or in the hopes that Orange has a change of heart.
Crown tries to use Jim's advice as reasoning, and then as a kicker, is spending more effort defending himself than attacking, something he accused Simmura of doing as he voted her yesterday.
Also, Orange, please stop answering in orange. I would so much rather you just quote the whole thing and answer it outside the quote, as reading it on my phone is incredibly difficult (No font coloring).
Buddying both of you? I'm simply saying that we're against each other unless you're the scum. In no way do I see any kind of buddying there. That's just plain bullshit.
Right, but your smileys and attitude show you as trying to appear friendly. You're lessening the severity of your vote, because you don't really want Orange to be against you. I mean, if you actually thought Orange was scum at any point, you wouldn't IMMEDIATELY drop your vote to vote for the guy that will no longer vote with you. So, you're switching your tactic to get Orange to vote with you. Hope that buddy buddy works for ya.
I'm not taking the Cop claim as true, I'm ignoring it because it's completely useless whether or not it's true. At that point, you weren't showing huge signs of being scum, so I was going to wait for you to post something else. But then you didn't, and I had to leave, so I wasn't given the chance. At the moment, you weren't showing much of any alignment either way to me. Something I was wary of, but I'd rather go after the scum-vibe instead of the zero-vibe. I honestly suck at 3-person LYLO, really.
No. You say, "Cop claim with only Town? Ah shucks!" You're trying to play both sides of the field, and now you're trying to backtrack. I'd also like to point that you have no vibe against me until I vote for you, and then it's a whole 'nother story.
Honestly, I'm beginning to suspect you more than Orangebottle. Never gave me a great vibe, but now it just seems that Orangebottle is seeming scum to me more because of inexperience than anything else. Yes, his reasons are bullshit, but at least he acknowledges them being bullshit. I have been focusing too much on him. So you know what webadict? Explain to me why anybody would need a "shield". Town doesn't need a shield, Town needs to find scum. We win together, while scum only wins on their own. It's much more vital to scum to protect themselves than Town. You really have no reason to protect yourself other than your own confidence in your scumhunting. But that doesn't matter if you haven't really helped scumhunt. It appears to me like throughout the game you've been acting more like an IC than a player. That's fine, but you don't need to be alive to be an IC, now do you?
Really? I never would've thought that, what with you voting me. I actually still don't believe you, but that's because your blatant OMGUS and lack of any reasoning is probably best beaten by "Hey look! He said the word shield!"
I am finding scum, and I was trying to abuse the system. You know who doesn't need a shield? Scum. Because they're the ones killing. So, really, what you want to prove is that I WASN'T using Heliman as a shield. I had one person other than Heliman to scan, and I was pretty sure that it would turn up Mafia. I can use my role and my knowledge in such a way, since there wasn't any loss, no matter who died. Unless it was Orange.
Extend. I'm interested in hearing your arguments.
Extend this bullshit please. Oh, and Unvote. I doubt my post is going to do much unless that extension gets through. LNCP, if you're reading this, make sure that Orangebottle AND webadict have been online since this post (scum wouldn't want to extend, so make sure BOTH of them have been online). It'd be nice if you at least gave them a chance to extend after reading this.
Are...are you trying to clear yourself with WIFOM?
Not really, it was basically to make sure I'm not lynched because of timezones. I don't want to die because I actually sleep sometimes. I worded it kind of weird. Basically the scum wouldn't really want to extend when a Town player is about to be lynched.
Yes, his reasons are bullshit, but at least he acknowledges them being bullshit. I have been focusing too much on him. So you know what webadict? Explain to me why anybody would need a "shield". Town doesn't need a shield, Town needs to find scum.
1) One of my arguments is bullshit. The rest are perfectly valid.
2) He explains his reason for wanting a shield in the post right before yours. Can you read? Here. I'll quote it for you in big letters.
If I kept claiming he was Town, he would either: a) Be confirmed Town when I died, or b) Be killed by the NK. If both Toaster and Jim were killed, I was obviously next. So, I used him as a confirmed Town shield. There was really no losing for me unless you all kept being stupid and didn't listen. Which is why I was hoping more for the b option, which gave me another inspection, specifically the one on the only other remaining uninspected player with the hope that it would turn up Mafia.
1) You had several earlier that were bullshit as well, and you admitted to a few of them.
2) First of all, Heliman would be confirmed Town when webadict died because he would be scum and therefore Town would win. Oh, and that's kind of WIFOM-y to say that the scum would continue killing ICs, right? Also, if webadict is scum then he wouldn't get another inspection anyway.
That's about the worst try I've yet to see. I realize it's WIFOM, but it was perfectly logical, since there is a DEFINABLE PATTERN. I realize that at any point, you could've killed me or Orange, but if I were scum, I would've never had an inspection in the first place!
If I want to use WIFOM as a reason to spout how I felt Heliman was town, then I can do that, because I'm making sure that someone is alive tomorrow that would be beneficial to the Town. But, people were just about to let Heliman get lynched, so I was hoping you would kill him.
Anything else?
Oh, and sorry for being a bit late. Longer day than I expected.
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