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[arkhometha]

Okay, back in my old fort before it died a slow fps death when I breached the circus, there where 3 layers of caves. Time passed and the caves became impassable, as the caps growed almost everywhere on the cave mud, trapping megabeasts, critters and not allowing my dorfs to do anything besides cutting wood. As there was a bug with dumping and I didn't want to micro manage the mass dumping, I build a walled highway, took time and stone, but the outside was still filled with all plants and things. I tried flooding it with magma to remove the mud, but it was too time consuming. Any ideias as how to remove the mud and make the caves passable to my dorfs without involving periodical mass tree cuttings?

[Cotes]

Paved roads.

I mean, it's not like it's a bad thing to have a shit ton of trees, you just need to construct roads there and there so that they don't end up preventing traffic.

[thijser]

Or you could flood a part with magma once you burn away the mud trees won't be able to grow without the mud problem solved. Alternatifly you could smooth a large part of the cave (about as much work as paving depending on stone positions and dwarven skill).

[Girlinhat]

Trees grow on smoothed and/or engraved floors, which is why plumbing systems get clogged so often.  Paved roads is the easiest way to purge them.  Personally, in one of my few forts that had plumbing, I enjoyed it.  Every winter I'd shut off the pumps, deforest the sewer, smooth it all over again, and then turn it back on.  I even had a few handy sewer-related statues, like the goddess of fortresses laughing, and elves being struck down.  Not that this actually reflected the sewers themselves, but everyone loves a dead elf.

[Pan]

Too many trees and your not considering mass deforestation... I'd call you an elf if not for your idea on flooding it with magma.

[Cotes]

Eh, why ruin your limitless supply of wood with magma anyway?

[arkhometha]

My highway was stone paved, and I threw magma but the caps didn't let the magma flow. And killed my fps, and destroyed underground lakes. Paving everything is too much time consuming, as my dorfs spend a lot of time in parallel activities and I have to dettach a squad to prevent the working dorfs from geting teared apart by cavemen.

Paved roads.

I mean, it's not like it's a bad thing to have a shit ton of trees, you just need to construct roads there and there so that they don't end up preventing traffic.

Oh yeah, it's bad since the megabeasts become trapped and I lose all my syndrome bearing fire spitting oozing FUN.

Too many trees and your not considering mass deforestation... I'd call you an elf if not for your idea on flooding it with magma.

You insult me, kind sir. I just respect all forms of life equally and I love them al- OH SHIT

I mass deforested once, one year later it have more trees than a elf house. And I don't have the place to put all this wood.

Eh, why ruin your limitless supply of wood with magma anyway?

Is way too much wood. I just use it for steel and barrels, as I have beds for every dorf and I dont need more barrels right now.


I guess the solution will be deforest everything, flood with magma and just leave a few clusters with mud so they become some dense forests, to have some wood stock. Dunno, the cave's being a HUGE forest doesn't seems right.

[Girlinhat]

Build some cave-in traps for trolls and other nasty sieges.  A support, with some walls above it.  You can make this into a thick block, 3x3x3, and consume 27 wood + 1 mechanism, to make a death trap, although 9 of that wood will be recovered after the cave-in.

Alternatively, build something.  Colored wood is fun to build with, or you can make it all charcoal and build in shades of gray.

[EveryZig]

I propose you make it all into soap. Then make a road out of soap.

[Cotes]

Yes, but it's not like the wood in trees is a huge FPS killer, you can't really have too much in that sense.

And any other negatives you can easily makes. For example, you could make a path with the road to all the open edges in the cavern so that anything that arrives won't find itself stuck in trees (and blocking some of the edges with walls if necessary). There aren't usually that many potentially entries underground, and honestly, paving is not that slow.

Aesthetics I call your problem =P

[thegoatgod_pan]

Trees don't grow on stockpiles, designate the areas you want cleared as stockpiles with nothing allowed and problem solved (for flavor you can make literal roads of milk and honey with correct stockpile assignments)

[Urist Imiknorris]

Just cut everything down and smooth the whole thing.

Trees grow on smoothed and/or engraved floors, which is why plumbing systems get clogged so often.

They grow on muddied smooth and/or engraved floors. Without flooding, there is no mud. Without mud, there are no treeshrooms.

[EveryZig]

I am pretty sure I have seen saplings grow in a stockpile. Don't know if the stockpile keeps them from maturing.

[Hyndis]

Trees cannot grow on roads, unmuddy stone tiles, or on constructed floors.

[Pan]

I wonder, will this kind of stuff happen aboveground? I never actually tried that...