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Total Members Voted: 49

[misko27]

Well, I don't know much about Afghanistan or North Korea, but I'm pretty sure Afghanistan is massively less stabilized than North Korea. And I'm pretty sure the fact that people are very likely still shooting each-other in there thanks to us Americans doesn't help.

That's a bit, simple. Things are getting relatively better. For a while it was just the Americans shooting the Taliban and the periodic civilian, and the Taliban shooting Americans and some civlilians. Now it's the Afghan Security forces trained by the US shooting the Taliban and the Taliban doing what they do.


It still sounds pretty bad though. Compare Afghanistan to some poor African nations please.

[Eagle_eye]

If Madagascar were your home instead of Afghanistan you would...
use 5.7 times more electricity
consume 5.5 times more oil
live 18.61 years longer
be 10 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 65.12% less chance of dying in infancy
spend 69.23% less money on health care
make 25% more money
have 0.58% less babies

[Xantalos]

If Zimbabwe were your home instead of a prison outside of the universe you would...
be 38.3 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 11.2 times more chance of being unemployed
have 6.2 times higher chance of dying in infancy
have 3.1 times more babies
die 33.74 years sooner
consume 98.33% less oil
use 94.11% less electricity
experience 56.07% more of a class divide
spend 98.97% less money on health care

[anzki4]

Comparing Finland to a few places:

Spoiler: USA (click to show/hide)

If The United States were your home instead of Finland you would...

have 77.97% more chance of dying in infancy
spend 2.5 times more money on health care
consume 64.17% more oil
experience 52.54% more of a class divide
be 6 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 33.37% more babies
make 32.95% more money
use 24.81% less electricity
work 11.61% more hours each year
have 9.41% more chance of being unemployed
die 0.89 years sooner

Spoiler: UK (click to show/hide)

If The United Kingdom were your home instead of Finland you would...

use 66.02% less electricity
have 38.55% more chance of dying in infancy
consume 27.12% less oil
experience 15.25% more of a class divide
be 2 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 5.88% more chance at being employed
spend 5.99% more money on health care
have 2.89% more babies
work 1.74% more hours each year
make 0.86% more money
live 0.030000000000001 years longer

Spoiler: Sweden (click to show/hide)

If Sweden were your home instead of Finland you would...

experience 22.03% less of a class divide
have 20.58% less chance of dying in infancy
use 10.72% less electricity
spend 19.05% more money on health care
have 9.41% more chance of being unemployed
live 1.84 years longer
make 5.44% more money
have 2.22% less babies
consume 1.26% more oil

Spoiler: Australia (click to show/hide)

If Australia were your home instead of Finland you would...

use 37.85% less electricity
have 35.36% more chance of dying in infancy
have 32.94% more chance at being employed
have 19.48% more babies
consume 15.77% more oil
live 2.59 years longer
make 11.17% more money
be 2 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
spend 17.43% more money on health care
experience 3.39% more of a class divide

[misko27]

Comparing Finland to a few places:

Spoiler: USA (click to show/hide)

If The United States were your home instead of Finland you would...

have 77.97% more chance of dying in infancy
spend 2.5 times more money on health care
consume 64.17% more oil
experience 52.54% more of a class divide
be 6 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 33.37% more babies
make 32.95% more money
use 24.81% less electricity
work 11.61% more hours each year
have 9.41% more chance of being unemployed
die 0.89 years sooner

Spoiler: UK (click to show/hide)

If The United Kingdom were your home instead of Finland you would...

use 66.02% less electricity
have 38.55% more chance of dying in infancy
consume 27.12% less oil
experience 15.25% more of a class divide
be 2 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 5.88% more chance at being employed
spend 5.99% more money on health care
have 2.89% more babies
work 1.74% more hours each year
make 0.86% more money
live 0.030000000000001 years longer

Spoiler: Sweden (click to show/hide)

If Sweden were your home instead of Finland you would...

experience 22.03% less of a class divide
have 20.58% less chance of dying in infancy
use 10.72% less electricity
spend 19.05% more money on health care
have 9.41% more chance of being unemployed
live 1.84 years longer
make 5.44% more money
have 2.22% less babies
consume 1.26% more oil

Spoiler: Australia (click to show/hide)

If Australia were your home instead of Finland you would...

use 37.85% less electricity
have 35.36% more chance of dying in infancy
have 32.94% more chance at being employed
have 19.48% more babies
consume 15.77% more oil
live 2.59 years longer
make 11.17% more money
be 2 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
spend 17.43% more money on health care
experience 3.39% more of a class divide

Finland, you use too much electricity.

[miauw62]

If The United States were your home instead of Belgium you would...

experience 60.71% more of a class divide
spend 2.1 times more money on health care
use 53.31% more electricity
have 40.18% more chance of dying in infancy
have 36.93% more babies
make 26.78% more money
work 22.33% more hours each year
be 3 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 12.05% more chance of being unemployed
consume 8.6% less oil
die 1.13 years sooner

Dat class divide.

[anzki4]

Finland, you use too much electricity.

I think quite a chunk of it goes to heating, having cold winters and all that. Plus at least we seem to consume way less oil than most countries.

[Solifuge]

Spoiler: United Kingdom, Canada, France (click to show/hide)

If The United Kingdom were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 55.61% less oil
use 54.8% less electricity
spend 58.1% less money on health care
experience 24.44% less of a class divide
make 24.14% less money
have 22.85% less babies
have 22.15% less chance of dying in infancy
have 13.98% more chance at being employed
have 8.85% more free time
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
live 0.92 years longer

If Canada were your home instead of The United States, you would...

experience 28.67% less of a class divide
use 27.2% more electricity
have 25.67% less babies
spend 45.33% less money on health care
have 18.73% less chance of dying in infancy
make 17.24% less money
live 3.05 years longer
have 8.6% more chance at being employed
consume 6.5% more oil
have 4.01% more free time
be 33.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

If France were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 50.68% less oil
have 46.09% less chance of dying in infancy
use 44.08% less electricity
make 29.31% less money
experience 27.33% less of a class divide
spend 49.1% less money on health care
have 17.92% more free time
live 2.85 years longer
have 10.12% less babies
have 4.3% more chance of being unemployed
be 33.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

Spoiler: Australia, New Zealand, Japan (click to show/hide)

If Australia were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 38.71% more chance at being employed
experience 32.22% less of a class divide
consume 29.48% less oil
spend 53.58% less money on health care
have 23.94% less chance of dying in infancy
live 3.48 years longer
use 17.35% less electricity
make 16.38% less money
have 10.41% less babies
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

If New Zealand were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 42.35% less oil
make 41.16% less money
spend 63.57% less money on health care
use 26.08% less electricity
have 21.51% more chance at being employed
have 21.01% less chance of dying in infancy
experience 19.56% less of a class divide
live 2.24 years longer
be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 4.06% more free time
have 0.14% less babies

If Japan were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 54.56% less chance of dying in infancy
have 46.42% less babies
use 41.54% less electricity
consume 39.97% less oil
have 39.78% more chance at being employed
spend 61.59% less money on health care
make 29.74% less money
live 3.93 years longer
experience 15.33% less of a class divide
be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 0.28% more free time

Spoiler: And just because their National Anthem is 87.03% better... (click to show/hide)

If Azerbaijan were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 8.6 times higher chance of dying in infancy
use 82.64% less electricity
make 77.59% less money
consume 75.86% less oil
die 11.23 years sooner
spend 96.22% less money on health care
have 35.48% more chance at being employed
have 28.34% more babies
experience 18.89% less of a class divide
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

Moral of the story: apart from slightly lower average wages, pretty much every country I've considered moving to is statistically better than the US. And the average wage data for the US is probably inflated in part by the class-divide, and fabulously wealthy folks screwing with the average.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm noticing now that it only seems to measure the cost of healthcare, not it's availability or quality.

[Solifuge]

Spoiler: United Kingdom, Canada, France (click to show/hide)

If The United Kingdom were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 55.61% less oil
use 54.8% less electricity
spend 58.1% less money on health care
experience 24.44% less of a class divide
make 24.14% less money
have 22.85% less babies
have 22.15% less chance of dying in infancy
have 13.98% more chance at being employed
have 8.85% more free time
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
live 0.92 years longer

If Canada were your home instead of The United States, you would...

experience 28.67% less of a class divide
use 27.2% more electricity
have 25.67% less babies
spend 45.33% less money on health care
have 18.73% less chance of dying in infancy
make 17.24% less money
live 3.05 years longer
have 8.6% more chance at being employed
consume 6.5% more oil
have 4.01% more free time
be 33.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

If France were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 50.68% less oil
have 46.09% less chance of dying in infancy
use 44.08% less electricity
make 29.31% less money
experience 27.33% less of a class divide
spend 49.1% less money on health care
have 17.92% more free time
live 2.85 years longer
have 10.12% less babies
have 4.3% more chance of being unemployed
be 33.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

Spoiler: Australia, New Zealand, Japan (click to show/hide)

If Australia were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 38.71% more chance at being employed
experience 32.22% less of a class divide
consume 29.48% less oil
spend 53.58% less money on health care
have 23.94% less chance of dying in infancy
live 3.48 years longer
use 17.35% less electricity
make 16.38% less money
have 10.41% less babies
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

If New Zealand were your home instead of The United States you would...

consume 42.35% less oil
make 41.16% less money
spend 63.57% less money on health care
use 26.08% less electricity
have 21.51% more chance at being employed
have 21.01% less chance of dying in infancy
experience 19.56% less of a class divide
live 2.24 years longer
be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 4.06% more free time
have 0.14% less babies

If Japan were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 54.56% less chance of dying in infancy
have 46.42% less babies
use 41.54% less electricity
consume 39.97% less oil
have 39.78% more chance at being employed
spend 61.59% less money on health care
make 29.74% less money
live 3.93 years longer
experience 15.33% less of a class divide
be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS
have 0.28% more free time

Spoiler: And just because their National Anthem is 87.03% better... (click to show/hide)

If Azerbaijan were your home instead of The United States you would...

have 8.6 times higher chance of dying in infancy
use 82.64% less electricity
make 77.59% less money
consume 75.86% less oil
die 11.23 years sooner
spend 96.22% less money on health care
have 35.48% more chance at being employed
have 28.34% more babies
experience 18.89% less of a class divide
be 66.67% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

Moral of the story: apart from slightly lower average wages, pretty much every country I've considered moving to is statistically better than the US. And the average wage data for the US is probably inflated in part by the class-divide, and fabulously wealthy folks screwing with the average.

I'm noticing now that it only seems to measure the cost of healthcare, not it's availability or quality.

Quality of health-care is actually fairly difficult to measure, but Infant Mortality and Age At Death are good metrics to use, when inferring Health Care quality.

As it turns out, most the countries which have considerably cheaper health care than the US also have a better track record when it comes to preventing Infant Mortality, and Premature Mortality.

[Loud Whispers]

If North Korea were your home instead of The United Kingdom you would...

have 10.5 times higher chance of dying in infancy
consume 97.48% less oil
make 94.6% less money
use 86.38% less electricity
die 15.03 years sooner
spend 99.96% less money on health care
have 36.64% more babies

TO BEST KOREA WE GO
BABIES AND FREE HEALTHCARE

[MaximumZero]

They should do US State comparison.

Also:

If Qatar were your home instead of The United States you would...
make 2.6 times more money
consume 2.4 times more oil
have 99.35% more chance of dying in infancy
have 94.62% more chance at being employed
use 30.78% more electricity
spend 58.94% less money on health care
die 2.73 years sooner
have 12.36% more babies
be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS

[MetalSlimeHunt]

They should do US State comparison.

Or as it would quickly become; "Thank The Google Overlords I Don't Live In Mississippi".

[misko27]

Mississippi and Alabama. The 2 most conservative states. The 2 states with the lowest literacy. The 2 states with the highest Obesity. The 2 states with the lowest graduation rates. etc, etc, etc.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The Alabamans still have the "Not Mississippi" factor working for them. Second to last doesn't sound very good, but as I recall the drop is actually pretty long.