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Socialist

17 (33.3%)

Green

8 (15.7%)

Peace and Freedom

2 (3.9%)

Democratic

1 (2%)

Transhumanist

11 (21.6%)

Libertarian

8 (15.7%)

Republican

2 (3.9%)

Constitution

2 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 50

[TherosPherae]

Shit, let's be chill and stop arguing about the title of the "shit, let's be" thread.

[MaximumZero]

I'll just leave this here.

My Political Views
I am a left social libertarian
Left: 5.95, Libertarian: 4.13


My Foreign Policy Views
Score: -9.19


My Culture War Stance
Score: -6.55

[Christes]

My Political Views
I am a centrist moderate social libertarian
Left: 0.03, Libertarian: 2.74

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My Foreign Policy Views
Score: -0.56

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My Culture War Stance
Score: -1.07

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I'm probably centrist since I found myself answering neutral on all of the vague questions...

[Taricus]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Left: 9.95, Authoritarian: 0.89




Score: -1.84




Score: -4.81

[Criptfeind]

Wow.

[Tarran]

Holy cow Taricus, you're a near full left. Impressive.

[Strife26]

Yeah, I get different results every time I take one of these tests.


My Political Views
I am a left moderate social libertarian
Left: 5.55, Libertarian: 1.16

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My Foreign Policy Views
Score: -0.68

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My Culture War Stance
Score: -3.54

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These are my results today. Honestly, I don't think that a lot of the questions are well done.

[Darvi]

Spoiler: Welp, that's not surprising (click to show/hide)

[Leafsnail]

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"2. Unions were indispensible in establishing the middle class."
Depends on where you are, probably.  I'd say they were in Britain, but I don't know about other places.  And... well, this is a historical matter, not a political one.  I could think unions are absolutely vital without thinking they created the middle class.

"22. It is wrong to enforce moral behavior through the law because this infringes upon an individual's freedom."
Depends entirely what is meant by "moral".  I answered based on what "morals" usually mean when mentioned in politics.

"23. Immigration restrictions are economically protectionist. Non-citizens should be allowed to sell their labor domestically at a rate the market will pay."
This assumes you think protectionism is a bad thing.  Not that I mind, but eh.

"33. It is wrong to question a leader in wartime."
Depends completely on the leader and the war.

Spoiler: Compass (click to show/hide)

Left: 6.9, Libertarian: 4.67




I don't really like the term "libertarian" here (which is generally associated with being very economically right) but I guess that doesn't matter too much.

[ECrownofFire]

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"2. Unions were indispensible in establishing the middle class."
Depends on where you are, probably.  I'd say they were in Britain, but I don't know about other places.  And... well, this is a historical matter, not a political one.  I could think unions are absolutely vital without thinking they created the middle class.

"22. It is wrong to enforce moral behavior through the law because this infringes upon an individual's freedom."
Depends entirely what is meant by "moral".  I answered based on what "morals" usually mean when mentioned in politics.

"23. Immigration restrictions are economically protectionist. Non-citizens should be allowed to sell their labor domestically at a rate the market will pay."
This assumes you think protectionism is a bad thing.  Not that I mind, but eh.

"33. It is wrong to question a leader in wartime."
Depends completely on the leader and the war.

I usually just assume that there's "most of the time" or "always" somewhere in the question.

[Leafsnail]

I don't think that really resolves any of them.  The first one is still asking you about a historical fact (which should have nothing to do with your political leanings), the second remains vague, the third still has the erroneous assumption that makes it impossible for a protectionist to honestly answer and the fourth... well, maybe, but I'd say it still varies too much to be very useful.

[ECrownofFire]

I don't think that really resolves any of them.  The first one is still asking you about a historical fact (which should have nothing to do with your political leanings), the second remains vague, the third still has the erroneous assumption that makes it impossible for a protectionist to honestly answer and the fourth... well, maybe, but I'd say it still varies too much to be very useful.

I think in order to disagree with the first one, you'd have to say that IF unions did not exist, then the middle class could have arisen some other way. The second is just a stupid question in the first place. The third is phrased from the position of the anti-protectionist. A protectionist would probably say "so what?" to it being "economically protectionist".

Also, if a question already says "always", then I take it as a "100% NEVER EVER EVER DO THIS EVER" kind of thing.

[Cthulhu]

The second question is fine.  It's one of those libertarian/authoritarian questions.  "Moral" in that case is clearly something that some consider wrong but doesn't actually hurt anyone.  Arguing that gay marriage should be banned would be a moral question, because it doesn't hurt anyone (except the ones getting married, yuk yuk yuk)

[Ancre]

Wee, a giant test thread !

My Political Views
I am a left moderate social libertarian
Left: 5.31, Libertarian: 1.8

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My Foreign Policy Views
Score: -4.38

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My Culture War Stance
Score: 1.56

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I'm a cultural conservative left libertarian ! Strange.

[Leafsnail]

I think in order to disagree with the first one, you'd have to say that IF unions did not exist, then the middle class could have arisen some other way.

The second is just a stupid question in the first place. The third is phrased from the position of the anti-protectionist. A protectionist would probably say "so what?" to it being "economically protectionist".

Also, if a question already says "always", then I take it as a "100% NEVER EVER EVER DO THIS EVER" kind of thing.

For the first... you could have studied the originof the middle class and have determined that unions were not key in it.  I dunno, it means people end up answering 2 questions based on their guessing as to what the questioner meant.

A protectionist to the third one could potentially agree with the first part of the question and disagree with the second part.  I don't think there's any way to resolve this... sure, it doesn't matter too much in the course of the survey (when I found questions I couldn't really answer, I generally just went neutral and put it at lowest importance), but it's still a bad question which implies a bias in the questioner.

The second question is fine.  It's one of those libertarian/authoritarian questions.  "Moral" in that case is clearly something that some consider wrong but doesn't actually hurt anyone.  Arguing that gay marriage should be banned would be a moral question, because it doesn't hurt anyone (except the ones getting married, yuk yuk yuk)

I guess so.  In the same way that "Family values" seems to mean "Anti-gay" for many people, "morals" often seems to mean "not doing things which don't harm people but which are just bad".  But I feel it could easily mean a lot of other things too - ethics in experimenting, responsibility in business or whatever.